By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
jarrod on 05 March 2011
Edit Thread
trestres said:

I was basing myself on Mario Strikers Charged as well which sold less than 250k. That's a soccer game with mascots there and Mario is a giant next to the inazuma brand. I honestly can't see the mass appeal you are speaking of.

We will have to wait and see in regards to JD2, which I repeat I can't see reigniting the dance genre in Japan. Recent fitness games in Japan included dancing and none was able to take off.

As for TLS, I'm just saying that you considered it a big upcoming game once. I admit I did too, but only because of the hype going on in these forums. So it would be wiser not to expect such big things from unproven IPs like JD2 or Inazuma Sports game in Japan. If it happens, then good, but I wouldn't even list them as maybes since chances are they won't be big hits. Another example would be DQM:VRB which if I remember correctly you were expecting very big things from, and it ended up dying at less than 300k. And that game comes from a franchise bigger than IE and comparable to Mario, yet sales didn't live up to expectations. Also remember your expectations for Ni No KUNI DS, you said 2 million was possible considering teh genre, who the publisher was and the dev team it had.

360 is basically a PS3 with less features and it's an aAmerican product and with less brand recognition than Playstation. Both get about the same games, but it's obvious which console the majority of Japanese gamers are buying. That's why 360 is never taking off, and its best selling games are exclusives.

I agree that PS3's final big year will be this one, but I also think that it won't be dead by next year. Just like Wii isn't totally dead now, I expect PS3 to be in the same situation or perhaps a bit better than where Wii is right now. Wii will be dead by next year.

Mario Strikers Charged came out 3 years ago, when the Wii market was still formative.  It also released against a flurry of bigger Mario titles overshadowing it (Mario Party 8, Super Paper Mario, Mario Galaxy), and didn't get near the sort of promotional push IE Strikers is likely to get.  And it still sold over 200k.  I wouldn't be surprised in the least if IE Strikers sold similarly, but then I also don't think Strikers Charged is the ceiling for it.

Fitness games in general haven't taken off, besides Wii Fit none on any system are over 500k.  So what makes Wii Fit different?  What might make Just Dance different?

As for my TLS comments, I think you're misremembering... I said I thought it'd sell over 200k (around 250k was what I pegged), but I never that was "big".  That's very much a mid-tier title, which is what I'd consider central to our debate here.  IE Strikers and JD2 might end up just being mid-tier too (as might Xillia and Ninokuni), but in those cases I can see the possibility of something bigger.  I don't think that was really the case for TLS.

I did think that was the case for DQMBRV though, yes.  And I still don't entirely understand why it didn't sell better, even though it is still the best selling card battler this generation (better than even anything on DS or PSP).  Looking back though, the DQMI&II remake on PS1 sold even worse (and that was an actual full RPG), so it may also be a case of the subseries just not being as strong on consoles.  I also think Horii should've done better on maintaining the fanbase on Wii... the 3 year gap between Swords and BRV was really stupid imo, and it still boggles my mind that we haven't seen more DQ spinoffs and maybe even a remake on Wii yet.  Something like Itadaki Street Wii, Torneko 4 or DQVIIr would pretty easy to do, and probably make a decent to huge return for the company.

Ninokuni DS I don't understand though, that really says nothing about sales potential on Wii for anything.  Unless you want to try and discredit my Ninokuni PS3 projection?  If you really want to go down the "well, you got this wrong before" road for the sake of it though, I don't think we'll have anyone left in the thread qualified to make any more predictions. ;)

Agreed on Wii/PS3 though.  I think Wii this year is very much what PS3 can look forward to next.