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4k1x3r said:
Michael-5 said:
4k1x3r said:

The game is being overshipped, yea yea.. and funny you're not answering to what I said about GT5.

GT4 was at 10.570k on Feb 2009, and then 10.850 by December of the same year, and 11.190 as we speak, so as I said 580k on shelves is impossible and the game likely crossed 11m if a full year was needed for it to get from 10.85 to 11.19, and I don't know where your 250k come from but... (I hope it's not from 11.19-10.85 because that's 340k)

10.85-10.60 = 250k. Anyway, according to VGC, now there are 580k new copies of GT4 on store shelves and considering that in many countires in Africa, or elsewhere in EMEAA the game is still fairly new, thats completly logical. Even in Americas, Europe and Japan new copies are still being sold, along with PS2's, it's not that old of a game.

It's also consistant, VGC sales are going up just as fast as shippments with PD. You can't expect a game to sell all of it's shipped units within a few months, it can take up to a year to match those sales, something GT5 is showing very clearly (3 month delay for 5.5 million, probably more for 6.4 million).

So claims about GT5 being undertracked are completly subjective. I trust VGC data more then wishful fans. It could just as easily be overtracked.

However, is 9 million so bad? I don't understand why 9 million bothers you. It's almost double any other PS3 exclusive, and right up in Call of Duty numbers.

December 2009 - 10,980k

We had it at 10.330k approximately on Dec 2009, and these new markets are so small that 580k on shelves isn't possible, it's not as if it was in huge and developped markets...

So 10.60k sold for 10.98k shipped may be right, not with 11.2

This is why you shouldn't look at shipped values to make game estimates. 11.2 million shipped with 10.61 million sold, is the figure just after 2011's shipment. This shipment may be the shipment for 2011 as a whole. December 2009 PD hasn't made a shipment in at least 2 months, so the gap would naturally be closer.

VGC data may be off, but no more then 10%. Even then, if GT5 sells 2/3rds as well as GT4 for the next coming weeks it should at best reach 9 million sales (This is a conservative estimate at GT5 is tracking below 66%, but lets wait for next weeks data). 10 million is not impossible, GT5 may be bundled massivly like GT3, and anything is possible. I only said along the trend it's following, it's likely LTD is 8-9 million, which still makes it the best selling PS3 exclusive.



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