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Ports of stuff the the PC does infinitely better. Emulators of stuff on consoles suck, tried it myself. Servers don't really hold a point.
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Other then, you know... not everyone wants to hook up a computer to their TV, but people may want to run this stuff on their TV.
In general you just seem to be selfrationalizing. Whether it's your previous use of hacking or your new dislike for it... I can't say.
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Yeah, because hacking your console is so much easier than hooking up your PC to your TV. What are you even talking about? Did you try either? Because I tried both. Solder shit like with gen6 and some gen7 items, or simple VGA or HDMI connection instead? Exploits or simply connecting?
Hacking is only good with room for benefit. There is NONE here. Self-rationalizing? I don't really get the definition, English is my 3rd language.
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You are basically saying "I am against this hacking because it doesn't offer anything I want."
There is plenty of benefit here... it's just nothing that benefits or interests you personally.
Hacking your console once can be seen as less trouble then having to drag your computer into your living room EVERY time you want to do that... don't you think? If your tech savy anyway.
Here is another benefit. With OtherOS active again, people can again build cheap supercomputers out of PS3s.
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No, I am against it because it's nothing that was ever of popular demand in even older consoles... do you know what the average person looking for in a console wants? *cough* backups. When the PS2 was hacked with all the various modchips, the latter were quickly cloned, and while not even working 100%, they all booted backups just fine. The matrix infinity, O2, DMS4 Pro, Crystal Chip, and all others vanished and died rapidly after the clones were offered. Do you know what functions they offered? Forcing video modes, fixing the screen in PS1 imports, and - lo - booting homebrew from various media!
Most of the clones couldn't do ANY of those - mars, early mid modbos, Apple, Duo, etc... guess which killed which? The $10-20 cheaper clones massacred their sources even without having most of their sources' features fully working - modbos were adapted after the infinity team went away, probably catering to the miniscule crowd that needs more than just pirated games.
Those are facts, you can check PSX-scene for those massive "clone wars" (no pun, darth if you're even looking)
The ones that build supercomputers get their PS3's specially modified. The famous USAF didn't get affected in any way. Why would the 10 consumers that need HOME supercomputers buy 10 PS3's to create such even be a factor in this argument? Ah, and why would you be moving your PC away from there all this time? If you're a constant user, wouldn't you instead keep it there? Besides, did you do modding? In most cases, it's far tougher than putting your cable inside your TV.
The PS3 was a console that never needed a hack, end of. All of the things you suggest, are either uneeded by the VAST MAJORITY that is/was satisfied by Sony's services (until people started fucking with games) or are already done better on other devices.
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Er... try telling that to the USAF.
We checked in with the Air Force Research Laboratory, which noted its disappointment with the Sony decision. "We will have to continue to use the systems we already have in hand," the lab told Ars, but "this will make it difficult to replace systems that break or fail. The refurbished PS3s also have the problem that when they come back from Sony, they have the firmware (gameOS) and it will not allow Other OS, which seems wrong. We are aware of class-action lawsuits against Sony for taking away this option on systems that use to have it."
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/05/how-removing-ps3-linux-hurts-the-air-force.ars
With this hack, the USAF can in fact now replace said computers.
Again, you've ignored the fact that modding could be tougher ONCE but provides the benefit of not needing to replace anything.
Also the VAST MAJORITY of people were happy with ANY unhacked console. You just didn't used to be a part of that group!
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I'll admit being wrong, there - but I did know their systems are specifically modified, hence the assumption.
Also, I don't really get what kind of replacing you're talking about. Lastly, this time, due to the PS3's abundance of functions, the minority left is far smaller. It's just not as important anymore.
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Read what the USAF guy said. When systems break or fail, they won't be able to replace them. That means not only with new super computer cluseters be able to be made, but the ones already made with be less effective as systems break down and fail... which they will.
As for it being "far smaller" where's your poof? Outside of... you. How much smaller is far smaller?
Why isn't it important anymore, again, outside of the fact that it doesn't benefit you.
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Where's my proof? Gaming boards all over the place. The ones that modded their consoles for imports back in the day or the ones that did so for enhanced media capabilites on their consoles (I.E XBMC for Xbox/SMS for PS2)... oh, whoops, neither needs to do that anymore. Seriously, just read the threads about either and how both are now SIMPLE.
I read what he said, and admitted to being wrong from that. Anything I missed?
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You said you didn't understand "replacements"... the custom firmware enabling linux would allow them to replace their systems that are broken down, and also allow others who want to build supercomputers and such.
So your proof is... antecdotal website postings about the reasons some people modded their console, and that makes the group someone "vastly smaller"?
Ignoring the fact that there in fact could be other reasons as well... and those were just the primary but not only reasons. Also, anetdotal random postings from probably a half dozen people or so isn't exactly what i'd call proof?
Ignoring you know, nobody was using the PS2 or gamecube hacks for things like... Super computers.
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Okay, got it. Well, yeah, that's probably one good there.
Half a dozen? As if. Check out SnesOrama, Giantbomb, Gamefaqs, etc. My proof is internet buzz. When somebody wants an emulator for his SNES rom, nobody recommends him a console one or adds it on to their PC one saying "this is better with a controller!". They are also all far less popular and are usually meek PC ports.
Ah, and how much people you know/heard of that build supercomputers in their homes? I'd say... half a dozen. Technology is proportional, and if people really wanted supercomputers out of them, they;d try something - you can hack linux into PS2/Xbox/GC - all three suck since nobody really cares. So did the PS3 one.
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