360 to out future-proof the ps3?

[welshbloke]

thismeintiel said:

welshbloke said:

thismeintiel said:

welshbloke said:

AussieGecko said:

not better technology, as far as I know HD DVD was in fact that, blu-ray is more space

I would not maybe suggest HD DVD was better although it certainly had advantages over Blu Ray BUT it was the better option for the consumer just not at the time for the DRM dreaming publishers who saw better strength in Blu Ray. It also helped that Sony had a big foot in this area. 

For me the worst thing Sony did this generation is kill off HD DVD a format that had real potential to hit the market early and with double sided discs the opportunity to accommodate the DVD market.

Sony didn't kill off HD-DVD.  Consumers made the choice and HD-DVD lost.  As far as the DVD market goes, Blu-ray does accomodate them.  All the players are B/C, you know.  And many movie studios are including Blu-ray and DVD versions in the same case, with little to no extra cost.

This is like the Sega guys who despise them for "killing" the Dreamcast.  If the Dreamcast was the best option, people would have bought into it more.  However, consumer choice, as well as Sega's poor management decisions, are what killed the Dreamcast (and Sega's turn in the console biz).  You can't go around blaming the competition for your prefered format/console's demise.

Maybe I was not present then because as a consumer I certainly had no choice at the time the biggest selling HD players were for HD DVD, Sony had the Blu Ray installed in a console this was not a consumer decision and to suggest otherwise is nonsense.

Also my point about HD DVD and DVD was they were both on one disc which of course meant you had less shelf space and ultimately less issues about is it a DVD or a HD DVD. The problem with your scenario is I cannot put your Blu Ray into my DVD player, I could put a dual format HD DVD disc into it though.

Majority rule.  No one had to buy the PS3 or had to buy Blu-ray.  Consumers were given an option and they chose.  Don't blame Sony or Blu-ray supporters because you backed the losing side.  Just like if MS had somehow completely crushed the PS3 and Sony dropped out of the console market.  I still would think the PS3 was the better system, but I sure as heck wouldn't blame MS.  Sony screwed up and consumers would have chosen MS. 

And your point about shelf space makes no sense.  I said it comes in the same case.  In other words, it takes up no extra space.  It's just 2 discs in one case, like those 2 disc DVDs.  And you can just put the DVD in your DVD player. 

OK you seem to be missing the point somewhat so for one final time I will try and explain the situation as it was back then. The consumer did not choose Blu Ray Sony did, they decided that to play games on the Playstation you would need a Blu Ray disc. The consumer did not make this decision it was Sony's based on there requirements and needs.

HD DVD was in fact the only paltform selling players in any number. The PS3 was a console that could also play HD content via Blu Ray discs. It was the companies providing content that decided ultimately what platform to have and it was Warner Brothers eventual climb down.

Lastly the HD DVD disc itself was capable of having one side DVD and one side HD DVD. This meant 1 disc not two and towards the end it was common for disc to contain both formats. It may be that some discs today come with a DVD inside the box but this is not the norm, I would suggest that this was the direction HD DVD was heading and so it probably would of become the norm and would of allowed the easier migration of content to HD. HD DVD was also normally cheaper than Blu Ray.

So now that I have laboured the point the consumer did not choose Blu Ray the content providers did.

Sony did kill off HD DVD but I will not droan on about that you should just look up the history and who was in what camp and what allegiances they had to Sony and you should find that out for yourself.