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Legend11 said:

This thread reminds me of the Nibris/Sadness thread that was on here months ago. I kept trying to tell people that the people behind Nibris were full of sh*t and I presented proof to back it up and still people didn't want to believe it. Now I presented proof (previous sales in the series, GTA is simply a bigger series period) and still people don't want to believe.

If this had been the opposite situation and it was SSBM that had  sold 17+ million and GTA: San Andreas at 6.58 million combined sales the Nintendo fanboys would be laughing their asses of at anyone claiming GTAIV was going to outsell SSBB. 

As I've said before it's the casuals that are responsible for the Wii's success and a hardcore game like this isn't going to be the type of game that grandmas, soccer moms, or any of the other casuals will picked up.

Anyways after the first 3 months when Grand Theft Auto IV has set records and it becomes very obvious that SSBB will never catch up to it I'm going to bring up this thread and rub it in to everyone that refused to look at the numbers and be realistic.


Funny then that grandmas and soccer moms bought so many copies of Zelda TP that just after a year from launch it'll pass Wind Waker's sales (has already done so in NA).  Funny also that MP3 is after 5 or so months closing in on MP2.  All those grandmas and soccer moms must have jumped at the chance to finish off Dark Samus.  They also seem to be snatching up Madden at a similar pace (though a higher rate) than on the Gamecube.  Those EA commercials with the old woman playing Madden 08 must have really worked.  There's also RE4 which will soon equal the GCN version's sales.  Grandmas and soccer moms obviously love to take down hordes or not-zombies to destroy a Spanish cult bent on world domination.

So yeah, thats 4 games that appeal to traditional gamers that have done better on a system with a smaller install base than their predecessors did (RE4 is a small exception, it's doing about the same but it's the same game).  Nevertheless though, SSBB can't with far more hype and a bigger install base.  No wonder you won't take Rol's bet.

EDIT: Legend has taken the bet apparently,  well everything but the last sentence still holds.