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Why are some people in such denial?  MS sold 8M Kinects as some said made $400M in just the hardware of the accessories plus how many millions more for the software?  At work alone I know of at least 5 people who bought xbox and Kinect and they were just Wii and non gamers.  Even a hard core gamer bought a kinect after he heard about how much fun it was.  Fact is MS would not have sold to all those casuals without the marketing campaigns.  Even if they drop from this point on, they have already made their money.  Instead of the 3-5M goals, they sold 8 M.  If that is not success then I don't know what is.