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GameAnalyser on 16 February 2011
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archbrix said:
robzo100 said:
archbrix said:
Hardware sales are quite nice for 360 with Kinect out now, and that's with no major price cuts yet.  And do you really think that a $199 PS3 isn't going to sell through the roof either?  The only hardware that's slowing down is the Wii (which by the way still had an INCREDIBLE holiday this last year), and will do just fine in 2011; the Wii is not even $149 yet, much less it's eventual price of $129 or even $99.

I do agree that it is likely that Nintendo will have the Wii's successor at the end of 2012 because they have already profited ridiculously well, but you are surely mistaken if you think PS4 will be coming that early.

 

My main problem with the PS3 is that they aren't doing anything different yet outside of price cuts, so I see them staying on the same typical path.  They lost on the motion control battle to Kinect.  Kinect was the cool HD motion system this holiday.  Not PS3 (that pack in game has not been selling well for a piece of hardware that is supposed to be all the rage).

Price cuts can solve some symptoms of a problem, but not the actual problem alone.  The problem with PS3 is that newcomers to this generation have two better options when it comes to the content they want - Wii Motion games backed by strong 1rst Party Titles that consumers have strong faith in/planned to buy w/system (Mario games, Zelda, Wii Series Games). And then Microsoft's hardcore games with HD graphics, many of which are available on BOTH xbox and ps3 (so why would new consmers generally choose a PS3?).  And then Microsoft's Kinect.  If anyone stole consumers from Nintendo it was kinect with it's unique and kiddy appeal.  PS3 failed to steal Nintendo's audience.

That's why I see PS3 as being out of options if they choose to prolong their system.  Nintendo and Xbox are still managing to offer something different to newcomers, or the same thing but cheaper.

Whether the PS3 can ultimately surpass 360's sales was not my point; that's another debate entirely.

You seem to think that PS3 is so far behind that there's no hope for it in the market in general; most would agree it will never be market leader... it doesn't have to be.  The PS3 launched at $600; its price has been the main deterrent, not the fact that it's not doing anything different.  Check out ioi's recent thread; both PS3 and 360 will remain very relevant in the market and extend this generation out much longer than they have been in the past, which was the point of my post entirely.  Neither Microsoft nor Sony are in any hurry to release a new console anytime soon, and I guarantee that you won't see a PS4 in 2012 as you seem to believe.

PS3 in particular already has a slew of high profile exclusives for 2011.  Are any of these games poised to sell like a NSMB or COD?  Of course not, but with a list of exclusive games like this, a blu-ray player, the most advanced tech on the market and an almost guaranteed price drop this year, why wouldn't new customers want a PS3?  Again this isn't to say that Wii or 360 are doomed, far from it.  What I'm saying is that PS3 is hardly out of options.

yeah, I very well support it and the consoles will have the potential for assuring long legs of gaming on it, that will extend through 2012  to even much later. When I could play dead space 2 on a seriously outdated rig with geforce 6600 GPU and just 1GB of RAM, so will games that are both hardcore and casual, based on newer graphics engine continue to impress and sustain sales on these far superior consoles. This can be also a speculation based on the hardware tech horizon. But the consoles will definitely stay out longer. So if there is any room for marketshare to extend, it will be the price of the consoles and the reliable technology. PS3 has blue-ray media for running games intended for the hardcore, whereas 360 has Kinect for the casual.