NGP could outperform 3DS if price, innovation and games are right

[M.U.G.E.N]

Immortal said:

M.U.G.E.N said:

oh trust me, ask anyone who visited Sony forums post-E3 last year..there were plenty of threads / posts on it :) Searching for threads on this site is hell if not I would have looked some up for you (seriously, I even predicted Tales of G F will come to the west when everyone said no, tried to find that thread for AGES :( ) but trust me, not making this up, it was utterly annoying...if you look above you can see even darth is agreeing to it...Patchy joined the doom and gloom way later, but he is an idiot and I expect no less of him..on ANY matter.

Like I said it may or may not happen...can go either way, completely ignoring the possibility makes no sense no does it?

and no, sony fans weren't happy about ps3 release like this..AT ALL. Most even jumped ship to other consoles. So far there has been absolutely nothing for fans to complain about. See I'm referring to fans and not fanboys. I think sony effed up ps3 launch big time...they could have done way better with psp too....but so far they have done many things right, heck even the few titles we know of, I predicted most of them :P (was more like a wishlist)

The reason why wii has such a huge lead over ps3 is simply because sony messed up with ps3, plain and simple. Again, keep an open mind about this, anything can happen, and I personally hope both do really well.

psp was not a failure, it doesn't have to beat DS and have the same success story of ps1/2 of beating Ninty to be considered a success. For sony it's a success, hence the NGP. And if you read dev interviews, there were quotes where they said how they made money off of psp as well, which should be obvious by the huge line of dev support NGP is getting 'already' ...I think it will be close 100 when it's all said and done (5bp just hinted about NGP as well btw)

And I 'personally' think Ninty are doing some mistakes with their device already..but getting into that cuz it will take us in a whole different direction so I don't want to get into it here

Well, I haven't been following many other forums, but that point is relatively irrelevant (xD) anyway. I'm not ignoring the possibility, but it's pointless to consider it when there is little reason for it. Also, I realize we actually jumped onto lots of irrelevant arguments here, :P.

Failure depends on the objective. A failure should generally be considered something that did not achieve its goal. Sony never outright stated "our goal is to crush Nintendo!", but they never said that they were just looking for a relatively profitable product with decent numbers either. Before its release, Sony may have seriously intended to take the handheld market as they had done the home console market with the PSP.

NGP may be getting a lot of support, but that was expected after the way developers held on to the PS3 despite the pain it gave them in 2007-8. Admittedly, NGP is doing a lot of things right, but, since this time 3DS is getting more support relatively than DS did the PSP, that says little about its ability to outsell the 3DS. And, just for the record, there's plenty that NGP's doing wrong as well, :P, but let's not go into that.

I respect your opinion, though. Never hurts to keep an open mind, :D.

Agree on the bolded, 100%. I think Sony did just fine, would they have liked to take over Ninty? Without a shred of doubt, success also doesn't mean reaching all your goals either. Again it must have done well enough for them to persue it to ngp.

On the contrary, given how Ninty have made mistakes in the past gens, should be enough to be open to the possibility 'imo'. Btw this applies to Sony as well

and no there were MANY who were saying Sony is done for on the 3rd party support front after seeing the 3ds line up, that's a fact and they are eating some hefty crow already. and NGP is getting way more support already than the psp at launch. Let's wait until the end of TGS to do a good comparison of the line ups.

But yes, I think NGP plus PS Suit is gonna surprise a lot of people. TIme will tell :)