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what news station isnt.

so what, i hate the worst president since jimmy carter. who wouldnt? should my name be "i love government and 10% umemployment" 


So, your experience with presidents runs all the way back to Carter huh?  No, youv'e only been old enough to understand Bush and Obama.  With that little experience in politics, it's better to not have the debate.  Either way, that's not this website anyway.

so because i wasnt alive, i dont know about president that proceeded my life?

and remember it was others 1st who were saying "oh its fox news they are teh biased" and then people saying my name makes my posts moot. 

and hey a was alive for clinton and busch senior (even if it were for just a few months ;>)

Sure, anybody can discuss presidents that existed before they had a clue(usually you are 13 or 14 yrs old before that happens at the earliest).  The problem with debating presidents before your time is that you can only base your opinion on the opinions provided by others.  Until you live in a period, you can't truely have a viewpoint that is yours.  Like we have all said here, i can watch the FOX channels reporting of a news event, and then watch CNN's and have completly different views of what actually occurred.  Now, try to look at the old news articles or even history books for that matter and hope that you can have an opinion of an opinion?  I only suggest that most of history has very few #'s to base real opinions on, most of it is words, which depend on the writer to determine their meaning and the reader to reinterpret again.

You are right that people were bashing FOX news(including myself), but it is too easy to do when they are generally so one sided(right or wrong).  Again, the longer you are around, you would have heard that for many many years.  It is a stereotype at this point.


a stereotype becuse they are literally the only news station that has any dissenting points of view. (all other stations are uniform in their liberal bias, some more so than other (nbs, msnbc to name a few) fox actually has conservatives and liberal point of view on nearly every show (actually fox probably has majority libertarians than any other group) when news the 10 news statons with the exact same opinions verse one that doesnt uniformly share that opinion, its bound to get bashed every time they have stupid things like this.

and r u saying people cant really judge presidents like FDR, TR, washington, lincoln, etc. because they dont have 1st hand experience of what they did. (so i cant know for sure that carter nearly destroyed our economy) well in that case obama is the worst president ever (in my history)

To your last point- you can judge them all you want, everyone has and will.  I just think(IMO) that everything that you base your opinion of FDR(example) on is just someone else's opinion of what happened.  So, to make your original comment of "worst since Carter", is odd as you only have personal experience with Bush and Obama.  You can have an opinion about anything(that's what the internet allows/created), that doesn't make your opinion have any real value, and the same can be said of mine.