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thismeintiel said:

Good grief, how long is this thread/argument going to last?  How many times are we going to hear about channel stuffing?  Doesn't it wear any of you out having to make that excuse, as well as find justification for it, each quarter?  The cold hard face that none of you want to face is, SONY CANNOT STUFF THE CHANNEL 4 QUARTERS IN A ROW.  Yet, some of you still make the argument.  This is because of the other fact that Sony does not control how many PS3's stores have.  Retailers are in charge of their own stock, which includes how much they order.  Even if it's around the holidays and Sony is offering some special deal, retailers are still in charge of what they order.  If if they have millions of PS3's in their warehouse's collecting dust, as some of you seem to think, they will not order more.  And the only time they will return a product is if they and the seller make a special deal where if x amount of product is not sold, the seller will buy it back.  First of all, that's not going to happen to any console this gen, as they are all still selling pretty well and warrant new shipments.  And second, a retailer never wants to go through the trouble of shipping them back (and I would imagine the seller would require the retailerr to cover the cost of shipping.)  They would rather push the console out the door, which leads to the sales of games and accessories for that console, as that's where they make most of their profit.

You know, at first I was hoping that Sony would outship MS by a 1 or 2 by the end of this year or sometime in 2012, just so there would be no need to have threads like this anymore.  Unfortunately, I'm starting to see that even if PS3 outships the 360 by 5 mil, there will still be this argument.  And it will probably just start up again once the 720 and PS4 is released.  Oh well, I suppose.  That's just how the world turns.

Totally agree.

 

I demand a logical explanation from some folks on how Sony can overship / stuff the channels for 5 quarters in a row (since the slim).  My guess is I won't be getting any responses.



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