| Michael-5 said: My point about Gears isn't as extreme as Killzone. I think Gears 3 could break 7 million because it's had 50% more time in development. Thats a completly reasonable belief. My point about Red Dead was that it sold well because it was based off GTA. It's essentially a Western GTA. Everyone who has ever tried to convince me to get this game has told me "Western GTA." Thats why it sold. No none GTA games made by Rockstar have ever sold too strongly. Max Payne was the next best, and I don't see how you assume it will be bigger then that. My comparision with MGS5 is that not many PS3 exclusives break 5 million, and the only ones that have were well established old franchises. Uncharted 2 even though not a mega-franhise sold 4m and will do alot more.LBP which again a new ip with small name and had not that great initial sales went on to do 4m.FF13 even without any advertising did 4m and you don't think AGENT will do more than them even when AGENT will have the main spotlight,advertsing and push plus Rockstar North and Houser brothers name on it.. Uncharted 2 got ratings of 9.5-9.8, and was largely seen as the first "must have" PS3 game. It was released just after the PS3 Slim, and esentially marked the turning point when PS3 started to get more polished games then the 360. It was also based on a 2 million selling franchise at the time. LBP was a new IP in 2008, it's 2011 now, the market is different, new IP's don't attach as well. Mod Nation Racers, InFamous, Heavy Rain, all 9/10 PS3 exclusive new IP's which sold under 2 million. Final Fantasy XIII sold 2 million (40% attach rate!) in Japan, and it's based of probably the most established JRPG franchise. So no I don't think Agent will sell better then that. How do you know Agent will be heavily advertized? Bully had the Rockstar name on it and it only sold 800k on the PS3. You can't assume Agent will be some mega franchise. It could sell 5 million, but I highly doubt any more that that and for all we know at E3 this game will go multiplatform like FFXIII did. If Agent sells over 5 million it will be Sony's best selling exclusive title. Thats not out of context, and I just don't see that happening. Uncharted 3 is the PS3 Star performer because it's their best selling franchise after GT, has a high rating history, and it's become their primary holiday game. Killzone and LBP2 are spring titles, and Resistance, TM, and The Last Guardian just wont be as big. "Look at the American Pre-Orders, they are low," how many games have had small pre-orders and went onto sell big time,alot of them. Other then Wii games, the only game that comes to mind here is Uncharted 2. Could you name me some other games with weak pre-orders selling extremely well? As for Gears 3, I think it could break 7 million. Good point about CoD, but Gears of War is a very different game, hopefully CoD won't affect Gears sales too much. Looking at Pre-Orders, Gears 3 is seeing very very strong numbers, so I'm hopful as Gears and Mass Effect are my favorite current gen franchises. |
first of all please mate cut down on writing,its way too much for reading and replyig to.
i too agree that gears 3 could break 7m but not because its development time was more as you think but because its a big franchise and epic games make good games.if they spend more time,it is gonna improve the game but only for people who are already buying the game not for people who are not going to buy it.
Red dead wasn't based on GTA.it was just sandbox game which are pelnty.CRACKDOWN,INFAMOUS,SAINTS ROW didn't sell well just because they are open like GTA.yeah it resembles GTA but that doesn't mean it is GTA.It stood cause it was a good game and rockstar backed it and had their name on it.max payne was sold well for its time.
MGS is an old franhsie but it has always sold around the same as MGS4 did so why even bring it to the debate.
Uncharted 2 got high scores and was popular but still isn't anywhere near the ff,halo,GT,COD,etc like games
"It was released just after the PS3 Slim, and esentially marked the turning point when PS3 started to get more polished games then the 360."
what???????????
PS3 always had more polished games.all PS3 games before PS3 SLIM took long development time,had top review scores and were most polished games out there.they just didn't sell that well.actually 360 games were the ones that weren't polished as much as PS3 games but still sold big time.
about FF13,again don't compare it as we know how much hate and controversy was behind that game.
BULLY was an exclusive and a rockstar game but it really wasn't made to be a big game.why i think AGENT will be big is because SONYdidn't do anything in the earlier part of this generation and only started coming back sometime back.it will be one of their few big exclsuives and a rockstar one with their great partnership in the past and they want something big for PS3 for it to standout.
"E3 this game will go multiplatform like FFXIII did."
we can all throw comments like that and keep assuming whatever we want to.
i can tell you one thing for sure if that was to happen then GTA5 will be exclusive to PS3 as AGENT was a exchange deal fro GTA4 exclusivity back in 2008
"If Agent sells over 5 million it will be Sony's best selling exclusive title."
i really don't understand you comments.GT5 is already over that mark so AGENT won't be the highest selling exclsuive by just doing 5m.
and i really don't understand how you think UNCHARTED is the PS3 STAR game.yeah it is an awesome game.but when you look at it it doesn't standout like FINAL FANTASY OR GT OR GTA OR HALO.it is more comparable to GEARS.
"Other then Wii games, the only game that comes to mind here is Uncharted 2."
LBP,HEAVY RAIN,INFAMOUS,FORZA.
yeah they didn't sell super big but they did far better than what their pre-orders were
GEARS is a very different game but its userbase does match with COD userbase.And about GEARS pre-orders,they aren't actually correct.Gears 3 pre-orders started growing at the end of last year cause its release was first planned for April but then they changed the date but the pre-orders of before remained the same and weren't compensated for.VGC doesn't track cancelled pre-orders which would have happened alot cause people don't normally pre-order games an year in advance.
