*Where Would Gaming Be If Wii Failed?*

[Mr Khan]

Killiana1a said:

Kasz216 said:

Killiana1a said:

I read through this entire thread. All the plausible hypotheticals have been brought up.

I agree, there would be more than a few 3rd party developers going under. Good. Great. Excellent.

The fat needs to be trimmed in my opinion. Certain 3rd party developers such as id Software who have not developed a game since Doom 3 in 2004, just need to die. I don't care what you and Romero did in the 1990s, I don't want to listen to your 50th interview on how you guys created the FPS genre, and frankly, I would giggle a little inside if you guys went the way of Westwood Studios.

Studios like id Software in the West are equivalent to Yoshio Sakamoto in Japan. 10 to 20 years ago they were the bleeding edge, created huge hits, created sequels, created another round of sequels, 6 year development hiatus, and 6 years later they are releasing a new IP. Romero, Carmack and all of id Software are the old lions who need to bow out now with dignity and make way for the new lions or stay their ground and finish their career like Brett Favre.

Honestly, I want the latter. I want 3rd party studios like id Software to embarass themselves and go out like an old man comes out during sex. A whole lot of waiting and disappointing packages.

I am in the camp that if you look at the indie games on Xbox Live and PSN, there is far more talent there right now than in celebrated studios like id Software. Give these guys a chance because they are hungry, are just as talented, and demand a whole lot less in monetary compensation.

Your ID software tangent seems... way off base.

I mean, why would ID Software have gone out of buisness when, they haven't even released a game yet?

Though yeah.   I would also perfer to see a focus be put back on indie games like those found on Xbox live, PSN, and more importantly PC... and smaller niche targeted games like DS and stuff.... though, i'd perfer it being done without people losing their jobs.  Hence why it's good the Wii is around.

but it's worth noting for those that LIKE their big AAA games... ironically without the system that dosen't get many... NOBODY would get many.

That's what's so funny about all the console hate.  People fail to see the connections and don't realize that they are connected and wouldn't of did as well without each other. 

Me, i'd rather just collect $5 buck games off steam.

Edit: also, you forgot quake live.

id Software since Doom 3 in 2004 has helped publish or produce games the biggest being the re-release of Wolfenstein developed by Raven Software. So yes, my not including of this is a tad unfair.

My point is essentially that it is time for some new blood in gaming. Sure companies like id Software and Blizzard still create good games, but if they aren't releasing titles every other year or two, then they should not be held in the same esteem they were in their heyday in the 1990s. Blizzard is an exception to this because with every WoW content patch, they are essentially releasing a new game. Not to mention the every expansion pack for WoW every 2 years or so.

 

Not to pick on another point, but Sakamoto is still creating hits, just not Metroid hits. Wario Ware, Tomodachi Collection, and Rhythm Heaven are all his brainchildren, which explains the internal esteem he gets within Nintendo (as these are the kinds of cheap-to-make-sell-millions games all publishers love)