Kasz216 said:
axt113 said:
Kasz216 said:
1) Actually, I would disagree... most pagan religion's main focus of belief was in fact "My god could beat up your god." It didn't take much conversion. You won? Most of those people adopted your religion. Judiasm was the first of the "New Religions" whose belief was built more on... well belief.
2) Judaism is not ethnically tied to anything. Jewish people are Arabs. Also, at the time it surivived the Assyrians, the Torah wasn't even completeted! It's actually events we first learned IN the Torah, and was later historicaly proven. Which is another point towards the Abrhamic religions by the way. They appear to be historically accurate. Few people know this, but the house of Paul... one of Jesus' disciples is something you can visit in Israel.
As for Christianity... well you couldn't be more wrong. Hell, you brought out my point for me, but actually ignored the salient point of it. Roman Emperorers converted to Christianity... when it was very unpopular. (Though it was well more popular then Scientology.) Christianity conquered and empire that was trying to wipe it out... without using force.
If you think it would of been wiped out you should look up the Kakure Kirishitan.
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So you're arguing one group of imaginary friend believers vs. another?
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I feel like those points couldn't of flown higher over your head if I'd attached them to bottle rockets.
I'm not arugeing ANYTHING. I am pointing out that Judiasm was the start of "New Era" religions. Ones that transcended exactly "one god vs another."
That's exactly how religion existed back then. I beat you in a war, therefore my Sun god is stronger then your Earth God... therefore your people converted to my religion.
A large amount of oldschool pagan religions were therefore disqualfied due to their defeat as set out by the tenants of their former believers.
Therefore religions that can be disproven.
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Not really, conversion in that way only argues the history of people who believed in these beings, not whether those beings actually exist or not, so you aren't really disproving anything by that, all you're saying is one group of religious people were able to beat another and force them to convert. The burden of proof still lies with all the believers to prove any of their gods exist.
Also Hindusim has a wide variety of gods (depening on your branch they are either all different aspects of one, or multiple beings), and isn't really about one god vs another either, and predates Judaism, so your idea about it being the rise of new religions is also false.
