evolution_1ne said:
Kasz216 said:
evolution_1ne said:
Kasz216 said:
I don't actually... but now you know.
Third party games do perform better on the Wii then the HD consoles.
Wii games were selling less and making profits, HD games were selling more and bankrupting their developers.
This is less of a problem now due to enough time being put in graphically to in general make things cheaper (as happens in every generation) but if it hadn't been for the Wii to start out...
there would of been some SERIOUS problems... and serious crashes of companies.
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yeah.....bullshit, your gonna have to show me alot more than a link from ubisoft (who is far from small) to support that claim. I bet every one you do find it's becasue of the developers own fault, poor resource management,shit game, etc.
but SERIOUS problems...yeah keep your own made up (until proven otherwise) FUD to yourself.
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So in otherwords "Show me more proof that I will pretend doesn't matter anyway."
Cognitive Dissonance much?
Also, you know... that's exactly the problem. ANYONE can make a shit game. If ONE shit game can end you as a company... you are pretty much screwed. Hence why the Wii basically saved... large swaths of the gaming Industry. If it wasn't for the Wii, those who did surived would of went conservative. Basically making SD games on the HD systems.
Free Radical went down because of Haze... they made some very popular games and some unpopular ones... and one HD game ended them.
Even great selling games don't gurantee profit though. Afterall Rockstar didn't make money the year Grand Theft Auto released.
I mean, you can believe what you want and what will "help you sleep at night", but it won't change the obvious reality that existed.
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and if they would have made a wii game they'd still be here....yeah umm bullshit.
and name some of the savoir games the wii has.... that had it not been for this game x developer wouldn't be here, I mean you say SWATHS, and SERIOUS so finding some should be hard at all.....
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How is it bullshit? Had they made a wii game it would of cost them at most one third the cost.
As for games? Off of the top of my head.
Trauma Team games, (Atlus)
No More Hereos (Marvelous)
Carnival Games (Take 2) a paticularly funny one. Carnival games is what kept the lights on while Rockstar completed GTA. Without it, EA likely would of succeeded in their buyout and we'd be looking at yearly GTAs. Not a small company, but the fact that Take 2 was so close to the brink.... tells you something.
Martio and Sonic at the Olympics - Sega Their first BIG success in a looong while... before this everyone was just waiting.
Basically anythign Hudson soft makes for Wii (Hudson Soft)
Early Square Enix (mostly enix) games most notably Dragon Quest Swords. Up until FF XIII and DQ, something was keeping the lights on... and heck, look at the position SE is in now after FF13 and even worse... FF14.
And then... basically everything EA, Ubisoft and Activision have made that have allowed them to fund other games. Keep in mind, the big guys pay indepentent developers too...
and this is just off the top of my head.
