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snakenobi on 03 February 2011
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Michael-5 said:
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You said "but not the biggest launch if AGENT and ZELDA release this year plus 3DS and NGP exclusive games"

Then you proceded to talk about how Agent could be a massive game, and compared it to Red Dead Redemption.

I was only pointing out that Agent and Zelda probably won't affect Gears 3 sales, Modern Warfare 3 might though.

i didn't mean that they would affect GEARS sales but that those games have a big enough fanbase itself and the genre is that big that they can get sales even without effecting other game's sales or getting effected by other games releasing around them

Oh, so you were saying that Agent and Zelda could have bigger launches, but Gears 3 launch will be unaffected? I don't think Agent will be bigger then Gears, at least not as an exclusive. It would have to sell as well as GTA to outsell Gears.

ZELDA is a nintendo game and has a totally different fanbase and AGENT is a PS3 game which has its own different base.all three games are from different genres and the systems have different fanbases so it won't effect.

the only effect that would be seen would be from AGENT to anything.Gears won't effect as there have already been 2 gears games this generation so people who didn't buy gears first mostly won't buy it this time.Zelda AND NINTENDO fanbase it totally different so nothing there.as for AGENT,a new ip and a rockstar game and few big exlcusives that sony will try to take in more people to play it.

how can't AGENT be bigger than gears,gears 1 and 2 only did 6m after such a long time on market.

o'm not saying that it will definetly be bigger than gears.

i was just pointing out to the past SONY exclusives and Rockstar games sales.

Well first of all, Gears 1 and 2 sold 6 million, and a lot of people believe both could have sold better if they had been polished more. Gears 1 multiplayer was added very late into development and almost not included, and thus it was pretty glitchy, and Gears 2 had substantial multiplayer issues. Gears of War 3 has a 3 year development time instead of 2 years, so it may be the polishs Gears fans have always wanted.

So Gears 3 should sell at least 6 million, probably more.

Thats a lot! GTA IV only sold 8.37 million and 7.15 million copes on the 360 and PS3 respectively. Agent is exclusive, but GTA is what the Rockstar Empire is based on. Agent will not be as big as GTA, not even close, simple as that. Red Dead Redemption was a huge commercial success and combined it only sold 7 million. As a single console exclusive, even if it's as successful as Red Dead, I just can't see it selling more then 4 million units.

Not all of Rockstars games are massive sellers you know? L.A. Noire probably won't sell much more then 1 million on the 360 or PS3. Max Payne on the PS2 only just broke 3 million, and I think thats going to be bigger then Agent, only 1 Midnight Club title broke 2 million, Bully only just broke 1 million on the 360, and Red Dead Revolver only sold 500k.

Sorry bud, but I don't know why your putting Agent so high up as a software seller. Uncharted 3 is probably going to be PS3's best seller of 2011, and realistically, even though this might be the best selling Uncharted, it's going to fall short of Gears of War sales.

"a lot of people believe both could have sold better if they had been polished more."

whattttttttttttttttttttttttt

that can be said with every game but quality doesn't equal sales and gears of war is one of the most polished franchise.

every thing can be improved.

gears multiplayers was alrite,the glitches were there but players got the full experience

 

its not like you spend more time and gears will outsell halo(just an example to show sales just don't spike just like that)

i agree and believe it too that gears will sell 6m copies or more.i'm not against it as i know it will sell that well.

 

gta 4 sold less as it was released in the infancy of the generation and it wasn't like the PS2 era when consoles were cheap and people would just go and pickup a console for a game cause they were so cheap.PS3 was out of bounds for alot of GTA fans that time and 360 too had a high price plus XBOX brand was small that time.

Still that game broke records

 

Rockstar empire is based on GTA but they have produced many big games and sony did pick out GTA when it blew onto the PS2 scene.

Red Dead was a new franchise,had bad publicity cause of delays,had an unknown prequel red dead revolver and was nowhere near advertised as big games are

AGENT looks interesting just by its logo and its description,plus its exclusive which draws alot of attention and will be showcased at E3 for exposure big time and alot of advertising.

it will do 4m easily,no doubt atall.

and if it turns out to be GTA ENgland then you already know what is going to be the outcome

 

people said the same about RED DEAD as you are saying about LA NOIRE.

MAX PAYNE did 3m but that was a good figure that time for games as there were so many games and not all games sold big numbers the way they are doing this generation

 

if AGENT lands Uncharted will not be the highest PS3 seller for sure.

Rockstar isn't just giving sony the exlcusive just like that,they want good sales and they would expect AGENT to marketed the hell out and promoted as the main thing on PS3 this year.