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sapphi_snake said:
Chairman-Mao said:
sapphi_snake said:
Chairman-Mao said:

How am I inconsistent and how are the holocaust and stoning to death of adulterers (nothing new or radical) anything similar?

I'm for a nations sovereignty to make their own laws but of course when it reaches the stages of genocide or something crazy then we have to step in.

You're inconsistent, because you simoltaneously agree and disagree with cultural relativity. And how exsactly is stoning peopel to death for adultery NOT RADICAL??? It's extremely radical.

Things like the Holocaust happen when prejudices are fed and encouraged within a society. But the ideea is that the Holocaust was expectable considering the attitude towards jews throughout the centuries. It was a cultural thing. Does that make it right? And why is genocide wrong in your opinion, and can't be subjected to cultural relativity, yet persecuting people individually isn't, and can be viewed as being culturally relative?


It really sounds like you're just trying to be difficult here. You took a simple statement I made about national sovereignty and turn it into an argument over genocide and persecution. 

And you call me inconsistent because I don't care about a person who broke the law in another country being stoned but I "draw the line" at genocide? So you'd be happier if I was for genocide because then I wouldn't be inconsistend?

You are inconsistent. Why do you care that a sovereign nation decides that X group of people needs to be eliminated? By your logic it's their right to do so, and not any other nation's business. That's if you go by any logic of course.


Yeah its still their right to try and eliminate whoever they want, but when it reaches the point of actions the powerful nations (USA, China, EU, etc.) need to step in and stop it. 

I still don't agree that I'm being inconsistent though. This woman broke the law and was punished, brutally, but punished nonetheless. She knew what she was doing and she knew it was against the law in her country. While she may be the victim of cruel and unusual punishment she isn't innocent in the matter. The Jews in the holocaust, on the other hand, were victims. Their only crime was being Jewish in a Nazi run country. Nothing they could do about it except try to escape. This woman had the choice not to fuck some married guy but she chose to do it anyways knowing the possible consequences.