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ManusJustus said:
badgenome said:
richardhutnik said:

What looks like a possible liberation of the Mideast from non-democratic governments that represed their people is seen as a threat.  WHY?  Yes, there are concerns that extremists might get elected, but unless talk of the neocons on western ideals is merely just spin to justify preemptive war, then what gives here?

Well, it would seem that you answered your very own question right there since that is precisely what neoconservatives are concerned about. There are Western values besides democracy, you know. Like pluralism. The Copts are worried about living in a post-Mubarak Egypt, and with good reason.

There's certainly a case to be made that Obama is the one who "lost Egypt". According to Pew, America's approval rating in Egypt is roughly half what it was during the Bush administration.

LOL, who cares about facts?

http://pewglobal.org/2009/07/23/confidence-in-obama-lifts-us-image-around-the-world/

And pluralism, do you know the definition of pluralism?

Pluralism - A condition in which numerous distinct ethnic, religious, or cultural groups are present and tolerated within a society.  The belief that such a condition is desirable or socially beneficial.

http://www.answers.com/topic/pluralism

Not exactly what comes to mind when conservatives talk about their policies.

Er, yeah. You might want to try something a little more recent.

I'm really not interested in debating pluralism and American conservatism with you in light of the fact that your every expressed belief about the latter has been stupid as fuck.