Pachter doesn't know priorities!

[Alby_da_Wolf]

Khuutra said:

Alby_da_Wolf said:

You give a possible sensible reason, I agree with you, not with Pachter. And the vast majority of Wii's and DS' new markets are simply happy with what those two devices give them, they give them all the gaming/not gaming/casual gaming they need, a big part of them could simply not feel any need to upgrade to next gen. Also, as you said, now some of Wii's features are available on the competition too, but while I agree with those telling you and others that good games using those features are necessary to succeed, I don't see why Nintendo's competitors shouldn't have their 1st and 3rd parties making those games.

Mmmm, the fear of users not upgrading to other hardware only really works if those users don't buy games - but they do. They seek out new experiences, and will continue to do so wherever they can.

Games matter, I totally agree (although with some motion control ones, peripheral, game and gameplay become indissolubly tied). But if games matter, huge libraries like Wii's and DS' ones offer countless new possible experiences to their gamers without having to buy another console. Average tie ratio for all current gen consoles is less than 10, most gamers don't need another console to have a possible choice of thousands new games (as every game they didn't play is new for them), of which some hundreds are good ones. Hardcore gamers (in the widest meaning of it) will look for new games on new platforms too, but a large part of existing user bases will stay with the current gen still for a long time. And then we must take into account the part of Wii users that use their Wii as a gym tool. Once they got WM Plus and BB and the games bundled with them, they don't need many more games to complete their electronic living room gym. BB and WM plus tie ratios are very small, like very small are their specific libraries, but anyway, Wii plus WM Plus plus BB offer a huge library overall for such users. And if they want some party games and some "deeper" ones to use Wii for other purpose than exercise, the library is even huger. Eventually, more and more "casuals" will upgrade, but not early, and for many of them it could happen not next gen, but the gen after.