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--OkeyDokey-- said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
LordTheNightKnight said:


Um, the Wii shovelware doesn't sell well for the most part, neither did Ninjabread Man.

And it's the fact that the sales are frontloaded that is the proof most gamers dind't enjoy FFXIII (same with Other M and Heavy Rain), while gamers like games like Red Dead Redemption, Just Dance (it's not shovelware just because some people don't like it), and even Epic Mickey.

People did like Heavy Rain and you're going to have to deal with that.


"most gamers" does not mean "no one at all", so you're going to have to deal with that, and try to actually read the context of my comments.

Okay. Most gamers did like Heavy Rain and you're going to have to deal with that.

It has tripled its first week sales in under a year. That's more than I can say for Mass Effect 2 for example. Did most gamers not like Mass Effect 2, the game of the year? Your logic is seriously flawed.


No, the game didn't have legs, which means the majority of those who bought was due to the marketing. Tripling still isn't an indication of legs, since it's about sales staying at an appreciable level for a time after launch, which didn't happen. Modern Warfare just tripled its launch in total sales, but it had great sales after the launch week, which meant legs.

Plus just because a game gets a lot of acclaim among the gaming community (which I'm not denying, so stop acting like I have to deal with something I already know) doesn't mean the game is actually liked by most gamers outside of it. This applies to lots of games, even those I myself like, and sold well but without legs.

And the marketing was not showing the actual game, but the common "show only the most attention grabbing parts of the cut scenes" ads that a lot of games that open well, but don't have legs, have. If the marketing had showed how the game actually played, and from that the game sold the same even without legs, it would at least show gamers were interested in that kind of game. But that's not what happened.

BTW, it might seem that because so few people speak out against the game, that people therefore like it. That's an aspect of the "false consensus effect". People often ignore things they don't like, and that's what happened among most PS3 gamers when it came to this game (and unfortunately Wii and PS2 owners to Okami as well, even if the game had been given some actual marketing).



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs