By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
sapphi_snake said:
Armads said:

Actually his whole character revolves around the fact that he enjoys killing people but hides this enjoyment behind a moral justification.  But his character constantly acknowledges that this justification is artificial.  That he really does what he does because he likes seeing a person die.

Also you've expressed that any psychological problems these boys had should not be taken into account.  Which I find a ludicrous and dangerous position.  If we ignore the source of the problem any solution you come up with will be ineffective in the long run.  Not to mention that you seem to be proposing revenge and not justice.  Justice would be removing a dangerous individual from society so that he does not harm anyone else.  Revenge would be to inflict harm on another person for emotional satisfaction.  You want vengence so don't mask it as justice.

Killing those two boys because it would ease your ailing conscience won't bring back that 2 year old boy. The simple truth is that Two wrongs don't make a right.  It would be murder to kill those boys (now men) and if you had killed them then you would be a child murderer.  A man who has decided that another man is unfit to live and has come to this conclusion alone and decided to impose his will upon society. 

Well, he may enjoy killing people, but he is effective, no? As long as he doesn't kill any innocents he's useful.

 

Lol, he actually does end up killing an innocent person as an accident.  He had the wrong guy.

As for any "psychological problems" they may have had, they had none. Had they had any psychological problems it's obvious that it wouldn't have been their fault, as they wouldn't have been in sound mind. The solution to that would've been to throw them in an insane asylum. However they were of very sound mind when they did what they did. They even tried to kidnapp kids before, so it was all premeditated. They were very aware of what they were doing, and they did it all in cold blood. If these doesn't have "life in prison" written all over it, then I don't know what has.They didn't even show any sign of remorse for what they did.

 

Lack of remorse in itself is a sign of a psychological problem.  It speaks of a sociopathic individual, if you read the rest of the page it even talks about how psychiatrists thought the lack of remorse was a sign of undiagnosed psychopathy.  Remember these kids were 10 years old when they did this.  They had largely undeveloped minds and their ability to rationally think about the consequences of their actions was not yet developed.  The fault here is on the parents.  If your child shows signs that he/she lacks any empathy for other living creatures and you do nothing about it, then you should go to jail for their actions.  Kids who commit crimes should be tried as juveniles, but the parents should also be investigated.  People who grow up in middle-class communities surrounded by suburbs with plenty of jobs and opportunities don't don't commit crimes unless they're genetically predisposed to attack other individuals.

The reason why I think they should be killed at this point is that they played the system, played all the idiot judges and psychologists who like pointing fingers at society, the family, movies, video games etc., but never at the bastards who commit the act.These individuals are pure evil, and one way or anither need to be eliminated from society.

 

You're letting your emotions dictate your actions (well your proposed action) which is what leads to crimes of passion.  A slippery slope onto murder itself.  Yeah the system failed this one time, but that doesn't mean we need to go out and kill them ourselves, we fix any loopholes and don't let the mistake happen again.  We don't go out and commit vindictive acts of vengence because that's just as bad for society as this murder.

Society is turning more and more like a place where bullies are made out to be the victims, and the real victims become punching bags. No amout of abuse they may have suffered at home justifies what they did. No movies they may have seen excuse their behavior. They did it because they wanted to do it, and they should be punished accordingly. You say they're kids, but only the most monstrous adult killers commit such acts.  Taking their lives (not necessarily by killing them, but giving them a lifetime of solitary confidement would be perfect) is the right thing to do, it's something most people would agree to,  and the way the authorities and the courts handled this does nothing more than shake people's trust in the legal system, which should stand for justice, above all else.

Also I would be fine with imprisonment and rehabilitation.  But solitary confinment has been proven to be counterproductive and make people more likely to commit violent acts of impulse.  It makes people more paranoid and less trusting of others.