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[landguy1]

CGI-Quality said:

landguy1 said:

Your response is the same as mine, and the same as just about every other person on this site.  Even this sit itself.  The data here and just about everywhere is not the facts, it is speculation based on assimilated data/conjecture.  Can anyone on this site or any other be right?  No, they can speculate.  

So, no matter how many words or charts that you or any other person who posts most of the stuff on the net or this web site it is just speculation.  And the hallmark of this site is to discuss the speculation of the information.  By the time the real info is available, we will all be talking about some other speculative set of numbers.

Let's try not to think that we are curing cancer or some other important thing.  We are here to speculate on the sales of games or game systems. So, when i get the comment "prove it" or "show me the link", I know that the person actually believes that any of the threads here are facts vs speculation.  This or any website can only do their best to speculate, and that is all you or i can do either.

First paragraph: Well that goes without saying. I haven't spoken as if my word is final however, which can't be said of you. You called LBP2 & GT5 disappointments without any real footing - and then disputed with people that Sony was disappointed, again without any footing. This should be direct advice to yourself.

Second paragraph: I haven't posted a graph, but I have debated with facts in one area. GT5 was touted as shipping 5.5mill copies in two weeks. Call it what you want, but I doubt that's a disappointment. And again, you repeat yourself about speculation, but then spoke as if your word is fact. Why speculate the way you did without knowledge that truly can't be backed up? People asked you to show them where Sony said they were disappointed, and now you've back tracked and called it speculation.

Third Paragraph: Since much of the entire post sounds like a broken record, and my responses may mirror that, I'll keep it short. You were quoted because you spouted a piece of information as fact, when it was hardly that. We now know the bottom line, you truly did only speculate, literally in your own world, that GT5 & LBP2 are disappointments. We already knew it was just your take is mainly what I'm getting at here.

At least now, we can all agree that there's no way of knowing if Sony was disappointed as you claimed them were, but we can present articles and footage of them proudly speaking about GT5's 5.5mill copies that were shipped (and are about to be sold completely).

All of your post is true or close enough.  There may yet be a fact in this thread.

The first step of recovery is admitting it.  I never said even from my first post that i was quoting some source or set of facts that i had knowledge of.  As i said, doing so doesn't really prove anything, as most of the facts people use  are speculation anyway.

I will try to wordsmith my future thoughts to not create this loop of arguments over again!