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Maynard_Tool said:
zgamer5 said:
Maynard_Tool said:
zgamer5 said:
Maynard_Tool said:
zgamer5 said:
Maynard_Tool said:
zgamer5 said:

also how did sony eat crow? that was said for pr and they were working on the move at that time. just because the competitor has 3d and just because that competitor sells better and they talked badly about 3d doesnt mean that they ate grow.

if you take and make such a deal after every pr statement then molyneux is probably dead because he ate to much.


really?.... come on. they went onto destroy the wiimote idea so many times, and talked too much shit about it,  and at the end they ended up doing it too.... that my friend, is eating almost every freaking crow that has ever existed.

they started the move way before they said that about the wii mote. i agree in a way they eat crow, but this time with the 3ds theyr just saying that they dont think 3d is good on portable, and they said that being asked if the psp2 will have 3d.

I used to believe in Santa too.....


their are videos on youtube :P which proove this. dating back to 2004.

 


REally? Because i can do a video right now, edit it, and say it was done in 2001.... and IF I can do that, I imagine sony is very capable of doing more than just modifying a certain date :P

believe what you want, it also shows an early move mote. all of that is in the official move thread go check it out.

atleast you agree with me that this time they wont eat crow.

Like I said, is really hard to believe they were working at the move, when first they showed the boomerang, then they slamed the wii as hard as they could... and after seeing the huge success wii got, they decided to suddenly show the move? Come on, give me a break. But to each his own....

Well it depends, they did say 3D on the go is not a good choice, but at least they are not talking crap like the with the wiimote. If they decide to stay quiet, and then pull a 3D Ngp, I wouldnt consider that eating crow.... but if they take the same stance as the wiimote one, then yeah :p

 the only videos I seen were off Dr marks back in 2001.  The ones with the ball on the end of the stick.  which layed the foundation of the move ball tracking tech and other augmented features.  it was the advancement of eye toy tech.  Dr marks even said he didn't want it to be electronic as that would cause the need for batteries.  which he didn't want lying around his home.  the controller part, with buttons and gyro's, accelerometers and magnetic sensors wasn't probably thought about as a serious direction to around the time of Wii release.

we only have Sony's word to tell us the exact time line of events.  only Sony's words can tell us every little detail of development and they have the option to lie.  we do have several markers of the development process.  The videos and a patent but they where early and everything was quiet after so we don't know if it took them the 7 years from 2001 to E3 2009 to come up with the move or if they had the tech idea before the Wii announcement and were merely perfecting it.  I don't think Sony would have even announced the move at e3 2009 if it hadn't been for Microsoft buying over 3DV and prime sense.

  
I might be wrong but from all I can remember at the start of the generation Sony was dissing the Wii's games not the motion controls, but I wasn't really paying attention to the Wii back then so I'll not argue.

I don't really know about 3D yet but I heard it was good in Motorstorm: apocalypse and killzone 3 so I am glad someone is trying to make it smaller.



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