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superchunk on 20 January 2011
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kitler53 said:
superchunk said:
kitler53 said:

not planning on buying one -- i'm apparently an apple fanboy on the handheld front.  i'm still piqued a bit by the psp2 but if it turns out to not double as a smartphone (phone, internet, gps, email, music, pictures, movies, texting, apps, ect.) i'll be upgrading to the next iphone as my next handheld.

i know you're trying to talk up all of the features, superchunck, but compared to iphone/android the 3DS is missing a lot of the key features i consider critical in a mobile device.

That is why I have a Android phone.

One device for mobile computing, communication, and occasional casual games. (granted with emulators I can play tons of old school games, but controls suck, unless I use my android to sync to a wiimote)

One device for pure gaming with added media and online support.

Personally, I will only use my phone. The game machine is 1/2 the price of a smart phone and requires no contracts or monthly fees, making it perfect for my 7 and 8 year olds. (or anyone who really wants games as the games on the portable consoles are just better overall than the phones)

okay first off -- the 3DS is $250 while an ipod touch starts at $230 and an iphone starts at $50.

but anyhoo -- here's my personal problem with your logic.  I only have two pockets.  one holds my car keys, one holds my phone.  i just don't have room for another device.  maybe a 3DS is a better choice for a 7 to 8 year old but the market is a lot bigger than just children.  more importantly -- i'm not a child even if i act like it sometimes.

and lastly -- i'm not trying to doom the 3DS or psp2 in any way.  people just seem to have no respect for apple/google in the realm of being a competitor in the games market.  and for some reason that annoys me to the point i feel like defending it.


I can reasonably understand buying a smartphone vs a handheld for an adult who would have the smartphone anyways, but don't try to polish that rusted bucket of logic you got going there.

1. Why the hell buy a $230 iPod touch when for $20 more you can get all the same media capabilities AND far superior gaming setup? Plus 3D capabilities to boot. That would be a simply stupid choice and a waste of money.

2. iOS or Androids gaming lineups are not different than what PCs have offered in flash or applet based games for decades. However, its not what a very large number of gamers want to play and the consoles have not died off even though PCs have them outnumbered 1000:1 with these casual gaming experiences.

As I said, I won't carry a portable gaming machine either. I'll stick to my phone and the occasional casual game it provides for the times I want/need to play. For me, my home consoles and PC are enough to provide me the deep gaming experience.

However, for my kids or average teen or people who spend a lot of time traveling or retirees or anyone who wants a better controlled and deeper gaming experience over the same flash games they've been playing on Facebook, they'll want a 3DS/PSP2.

But, you CANNOT put iOS or Android or any other phone in the same category of mobile gaming as a stand alone machine. Its just not the same. Two completely different expereinces and target consumers. May contain some overlap, but that is 10-15% at most and the rest is far different.

Also, who the F is going to buy the $50 two year old iPhone? Are you fucking serious? If someone is buying an iPhone they're getting the latest and greatest with a contract. Same with Android, however, mine with a contract was free because I don't need to suck Job's penis and prefer the best value when all else is equal.