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jarrod on 10 January 2011
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LOL @ people still comparing MK with GT5,the two games have nothing to do with eachother.

It's like comparing Avatar and Inception

 You know, you really set yourself up for a HUGE troll comment there.

Comaping a good movie (Inception) with a bad movie (avatar) that people only like because of it's amazing graphics and effects.

Avatar and Inception are both sci-fi,but not in the same sub-genre.Avatar made 3 times more money than Inception,probably where MK and GT5 will also sit when all is said and done.

Avatar was so popular,mainly because the reputation of it's producer,James Cameron,which made a shitload of money with previous movies,especially Titanic and it's effects were enjoyable to watch.That's similar to MK selling,because the reputation of it's developer and Mario,and the fun/enjoy it gives you.

Inception,however,was produced by Christopher Nolan,someone who's made top-quality movies during his career,but his movie wasn't for the casuals,like Avatar was,you had to actually think a bit to understand it.That's similar to GT5,who's been made by PD,a top-quality game-studio,and you actually need some skill to finish the game.

All in all,I think it's a very good comparison.

This comparison might work if all Nolan's earlier films had outsold all Cameron's... but that's pretty far from the case.  Again, this comparison relies on a revisionist stance, that Mario Kart was the IP heavyweight when in fact before this generation GT was by far the bigger brand.  And there's also the fact that GT used to be big with casuals (you don't sell 10-15 million units of anything in this industry without them)... the reason Mario Kart took off while GT atrophied this generation isn't due to their content so much as it is the machines they released on and thus audiences they had to sell to.  That's the real differentiator this generation, Mario Kart and GT didn't suddenly change design wise... which is why the Avatar/Inception comparison ultimately falls flat.

You're writing like GT's popularity has lessened while it certainly has not.

It's holding up in one region (Europe) and GT5 most likely won't hit 10m, while GT PSP bombed by series standards.  It's not exactly business as usual for Gran Turismo.

And again, I'm saying the blame should be laid at the platforms, not the games themselves (well, at least in GT5's case, I know GT PSP had some blowback content wise).  GT's popularity hasn't lessened so much as it just doesn't have the sort of massive mainstream audience ready to sell in to that it had on PS1/PS2.

GT PSP didn't bomb, it didn't have any other handheld one to compare itself too. Handhelds work way differently than consoles. If it wasn't for Japan, we would see that the rest of the world doesn't buy handheld games anywhere near to the amount of home consoles.

Bombed by series standards, there's a difference.  Some games are indeed better suited to certain platforms (home vs handheld consoles), though I don't know you can really make that case for racers.  Especially when Mario Kart's done so exceedingly well on DS.

GT PSP did have (reduced) content working against though, so it had another negative beyond what GT5 faces (which is purely a less mainstream userbase to sell to).