slowmo said:
zgamer5 said:
A203D said:
zgamer5 said:
slowmo said:
zgamer5 said:
thx1139 said:
CGI-Quality said:
thx1139 said:
Nope GT5 is doing exactly what I thought it would do.
Big time Christmas present for existing PS3 owners and not moving much additional hardware.
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GT5 didn't move just hardware it's release week, it helped to increase it weekly during the holiday, with the PS3 not falling too far behind 2009 levels. Without a price cut, it (and Move) were definite key factors, unless you're suggesting the PS3 stayed close to the previous year's numbers just based on existing merits.
Whatever the case may be, GT5 has contributed to a substantial amount of hardware moving during the 2010 holiday season.
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Over and over people said this is when PS3 makes its final push and catches the 360. The fact of the matter is that when consoles have the install base that all 3 consoles have a software title has minimal effect on new hardware sales. The simple fact that the consoles have a good library and more new good software will continue to be released keeps the sales going.
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those people never knew of a slim and kinects 500 million ad budget. its like if you come and say that all the people who predicted 360 to be at 46 million by years end were dillusional.
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They were.
If they hadn't expected the slim and advertsiing budget they still knew Kinect was coming and it would have some boost. There is also the fact that they knew Reach was launching which would push sales and also be advertised to create interest. Finally had the slim not released it's pretty much nailed on there would have been a modest cut to generate more interest too. All in all I fail to see how anyone could seriously predict sales less than 48 million without either wishful thinking or ignorance of the market imo.
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360 ender with what 50 million at years end. slim gave a boost from its release till now, and no one expected the budget to be 500m so their prediction would have probably been correct or 1 milion of.
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Tbh, Reach released in September and didnt push many consoles, the same with the silm redesign, while that helped a lot in the US, the PS3 was still outselling the 360 worldwide (being outsold primarily in the US), Kinect has saved the console, there is no doubt about that imho. Kinect has been their ace in the hole and its worked.
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first of all im talking about 360 sales. 2nd think from slim release till week after move release 360 has been outselling ps3.
other then that i was talking about peoples predictions, and they were reasonable considering the knowledge back then.
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I don't consider people being 4 million out a reasonable prediction in the slightest but you're entitled to your opinion. Just for fun what do you think would have happened had the 360 been price cut instead of the slim revision. The price cut was the most likely scenario this year but the slim just meant it wasn't necessary but I think the numbers wouldn't be too far off what they are now. At worst the figures were always going to be in the 48 million region never 46 million.
I'll not even highlight the hypocrysy of some people defending the low 360 sales predictions while lambasting users on here who predicted sub 10 million LTD sales figures for GT5.
Anyway I've defended my viewpoint so I'll leave you to the last word and not go further off topic :).
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like i said in my previous posts no one expected the slim release and kinect to have such numbers before the 500 million budget was announced, and that is what made the difference. you miss a key phrase which was "considering their knowledge back then"
as for gt5 since 6 months ago people have been sceptic about it reaching 10 million, accept the fanboys, the only people who got bashed are the ones who said a prediction btw 5 and 7 ltd. i didnt see any bashing when someone picked 9 or 8.