Stop Smoking - thats srsz business 0o

[Porcupine_I]

theprof00 said:

Porcupine_I said:

theprof00 said:

Not to mention that industrial cities have so much carbon in the air that there are thousands of cases of lung cancer from people who don't even smoke.

how is that even relevant to smoking in any way?

thousands of non smoking lung cancers in relation to millions of smoker lung cancers?

i mean, if you want to smoke, then smoke, it's your own decision, but be at least honest about it why you do it, and don't  tell me you smoke because it doesn't make any difference if you do or don't.

It's relevant because every time you take a foot outside your door, you have a huge increase in chance of death.

You live life, you get through it, you deal with the problems. Nicotine is an addiction, but its also self medication, and for that reason, hard to live without.

Everyone and their mom in america is on adirol or zoloft or any of a thousand pills or combinations of them.

Then you die and it's over. There's nothing you can do. You can live your whole life smoking and get killed by a mugger. You can never smoke your whole life, then get alzheimers or diabetes.

Or, you may get skin cancer from a type of plastic that the FDA or whoever, said was safe.

Or howabout how obesity is now the number one killer?

As a similar analogy to smoking, let's look at obesity. Mcdonalds 1$ menu, etc. It's been shown that the highest caloric foods with the worst ingredients and care are some of the cheapest foods. Poor people often become fat because they must work and work and work, and often have no time or money to make food or buy proper food. The result is an entire nation of people who eat cheap calorie meals and are getting fat, and dying from it.

You could say the same for those people. "They have a choice not to eat those foods", but really, they don't. They need SOMETHING, and that is really the only something that is keeping them going. It is a very similar way to cigarettes and self-medicating with them. Cigarettes stave off hunger, have a numbing agent, and make you more alert. So, people who don't sleep enough, work long tiresome hours, and don't make enough money, food and cigarettes go hand in hand.

 

You can choose to agree or not, just beware that you are arguing with a fatalist. Just because you raise your ODDS to live by not smoking, doesn't for a second mean that you will. That is the great oversight.

 

I specifically said that one of the main disadvantages of smoking is the effects it has on your "growth". It's harder to get in shape, harder to feed yourself well. I do not believe the smoking cessation is as huge a deal towards "living-or-not", but I do see smoking as bad for self-improvement, and interaction with others due to hygiene.

you are no fatalist. a fatalist doesn't argue, he doesn't need to make excuses for what he does and  that is what you do!

you make lots of points, but they ultimately are just excuses for you to keep smoking. i wonder why you need those excuses? i'm not judging you, i'm just tired of people bringing up things that are completely unrealated to the subject at hand.