Microsoft vs Valve - On Treatment of Indie Devs

[ssj12]

Mr Puggsly said:

ssj12 said:

themanwithnoname said:

ssj12 said:

Well, this proves that M$ actually doesnt care about indie developers at all. Not that im surprised at all. Microsoft hates open source everything on PC.

Yeah. I guess that must be why XBLA has a drought of exclusives from indie developers each year. /sarcasm

Steam's indie offers way overshadow XBLA, and Valve advertises indie titles and promote them with sales and bundles.

I imagine Steam has a bigger market for indie games. I mean people don't buy HD consoles to play casual indie crap.

If working with MS is so damn difficult than maybe they should stop working with MS. But they rather just take the money and act like a bunch of babies.

Indie developers should just be glad MS is giving them an opportunity to make some money and marketing their software to console gamers. I don't see Nintendo and Sony doing a whole lot for indie studios either. From my understanding Sony showed no interest in Super Meat Boy.

A very scant few are "casual crap"

If you look at the reviews I did for this site you will find I reviewed a couple of really nice indie titles. There are tons more. PopCap might make millions off Peggle and Bejeweled, but they actually aren't that bad of games themselves.  And PopCap is an amazing example of an indie developer making it into prime-time. Same with Valve.

I really do get the whole anti-casual thing at all really. Most of the games are fun. Which is the point of playing games. Games without fun shouldn't be made, and most of the games that fall under this are mini-game packages and seriously broken games that come from the large companies like EA and Activision.

Really you want to see what indie devs made? Look up Eufloria, Zeno Clash, Crayon Physics Deluxe, Recetear: An Item Shop Tale, Greed Corps, Gish, and Misadventures of  PB Winterbottom. Just a few of many amazing titles.