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nanarchy said:
justinian said:
nanarchy said:

how soon people forget. Apple Pippen. Apple have tried this market and crashed and burned once already. For every product that they have that is a success they have a heap more that have been dismal failures like the pippen.


Yep. Pippen and Newton etc.,

Anyhow, don't compare Apple without Steve Jobs and Apple with Steve Jobs (since his return).

Since his return it has been a totally different company, from one that was struggling to one that is worth more than most and he played a major part of where it is today.

Even his "failure" that was Apple TV is now taking off in sales.

Any gaming enterprise will surely be his decision.

ROKR, Puck Mouse, anniversary edition Mac are all post his return.


First of all, don't take me for a member of the Steve Jobs fanclub - although I respect his accomplishments.

The anniversary Mac was released in May 1997 and was Gilmore's project...he was probably sacked partly because of it.

Steve Jobs became CEO of Apple in July or August 1997 and quickly canned it.

ROKR (which is Motorola built BTW) only had an  itunes player. I wouldn't exactly call it an Apple product. Idon't recall seeing the Apple logo on it and I have used one. It was launched in 2005 (I think) when Apple and Jobs were already focusing on their own iphone.

The puck mouse (1998) was total crap. Yup, that's all we got, a mouse that was included with the iMac. I bet they lost ten billion dollars on that one.