EMEAA up!!

[binary solo]

Darth Tigris said:

4k1x3r said:

Darth Tigris said:

 
Well the demeaning is the crux of my point.  If it wasn't for EMEAA (and no, I've never liked that grouping), GT5 would be nothing.  But the same can be said of, say, Halo Reach and Americas.  But those purchasers in Americas are quite often demeaned in this community for it as well as the series in general, but GT5 sales in EMEAA have been celebrated for carrying the title.

For the record, this is NOTHING against these games.  They've pretty much proven themselves.  I'm just calling out an inconsistency in the way the community responds to these things.  In fact, if I wanted I could bring up the same inconsistencies with the response to Kinect's performance in Americas ...

Using Polyphony shipped numbers without GT5 data ftm.

	Americas	Japan	Europe	Asia	EMEAA	Worldwide
Total	20,05	9,72	25,94	0.66	26.6	56.36

- Americas : 35.6%

- Japan : 17.2%

Europe : 46%

Asia : 1.2%

- EMEAA : 47.2%

Using VGchartz numbers including GT5.

	Americas	Japan	EMEAA	Worldwide
Total	20.38	10.02	27.87	58.27

- Americas : 35%

- Japan : 17.2%

- EMEAA : 47.8%

Now let's check Halo, with VGChartz numbers because that's all we have.

	Americas	Japan	EMEAA	Worldwide
Total	30.89	0.50	10.17	41.56

- Americas : 74.3%

- Japan : 1.2%

- EMEAA : 24.5%

 

Now you see why Halo and GT case are not alike.

Except, outside of special edition consoles, Halo games weren't bundled.  If you remove GT3 from that comparison (which was HEAVILY bundled in Americas), how does it look at that point?

I don't know where you get this "demeaning Halo because it primarily sells in the Americas" from. I've seen a lot of people hate on Halo for no good reason, but that it gets its impressive sales performance mostly because of the Americas isn't one of those no good reasons. I mean really there are almost no big selling FPS games that aren't dominated by Americas sales on 360. Look at MW1, MW2, WaW, Black Ops, Left for Dead 1 & 2, Borderlands... So there's really no legitimacy to singling out Halo as having a large Americas:EMEAA sales imbalance. FPS Games that have a <2:1 sales ratio on 360 are the exception to the rule (or they've sold like crap across the board), meaning Halo games simply follow the normal FPS pattern on 360. End result is that this whole discussion is based on a false premise, as is any flaming about Halo's sales pattern (of which I've seen none).

GT5 is failing to light up the Americas because PS3 has (relatively) failed in the Americas. All those GT owning people who went from PS2 to 360 in the Americas went and got themselves FM2 and especially FM 3, and haven't looked back. There's no reason for those people to buy a PS3 just because of GT5, and there's especially less perceived reason now given GT5 has received a lot of media criticism and significantly lower review scores than FM3. Just look at the difference in regional sales for FM3 compared to other similar games on 360. So GT5 is pre-destined to sell lower in the Americas than any main GT game before it. EMEAA on the other hand is a different matter for GT5. It will certainly outsell GT2, probably outsell GT1 and potentially get very close to GT3.

Anyway, on to what I really wanted to talk about: Does anyone else get the impression that EMEAA numbers are more likely to get substantial adjustments when they get posted early? Seems like it would be better to take the time to refine the numbers and publish them later in the week than push out numbers early in the week only to see substantial adjustment week or 2 later. Kinda plays havoc on the weekly sales analysis articles.

Dunno if it's been mentioned already, but PS3 has just achieved a 2 million console lead over 360 across EMEAA by crossing 21 million in sales on the same week 360 crosses 19 million. I think that's officially a substantial lead. 360 has done extremely well in grabbing a substantial market share, but by itself it didn't do a lot of damage to the Playstation brand. to put PS3's abject failure as a console in perspective: before the end of 2010 PS3 will sell more consoles across EMEAA than Gamecube sold worldwide, and some time in 2011 it will sell more consoles across EMEAA than XB did worldwide. Also some time in 2011 PS3 will have higher in the Americas than N64 and SNES. Assuming another 2 years of sales at least it will surpass all Nintendo home consoles other than Wii, and within that time,and all this while possibly remaining  the 3rd placed console for the generation.

Oh yeah, some nice numbers for the week. Sad to see Heavy Rain out of the top 200, but it had a good run and achieved well above what was expected.