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a.l.e.x59 said:
RolStoppable said:

The PS3 would need diversity in the game library compared to the 360 to have a chance to outsell it. As long as the offered gameplay experiences of both consoles are pretty much identical, most people will see the PS3 as practically the same console as 360, just 200$ more and less games in the library.

No matter if you like it or not, Microsoft has done a good job in offsetting games Sony has. We have for example:

Forza - Gran Turismo

Halo - Killzone

Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssee - Final Fantasy

Splinter Cell - Metal Gear Solid

Dead or Alive - Tekken

Of course it's debatable which game series are the better ones, but the point is that to the average customer both consoles offer the same type of games. Plus the fact that most 3rd party games go multiplatform and look graphically identically.

So why spend 200$ more for something that doesn't offer more? This is the challenge for Sony.

Home is underway, but it's only the beginning. The PS3 needs much more diversity to the 360 and Live to convince customers that the PS3 is the better choice.


Gran Turismo > Forza (by far. I have never even heard of Forza)

Halo > Killzone (Killzone sucked)

Final Fantasy > Blue Dragon, Lost Odysse (Final Fantasy is way better)

Splinter Cell = Metal Gear Solid (both are equally as good)

Dead of Alive = Tekken (both are descent)

All of these games are okay. Except Halo and Metal Gear Solid. Those are outstanding games. Gran Turismo is just your ordinary racing game.


The only games on either list that can realistically make a dent in hardware sales is FF, Halo & MSG (the last 2 limited to US however). The other games, good or not, are not "must haves" for anyone because they are either unknown or because of their genre. Fighting games for example, are generally thought of as supplimental. It really doesnt matter which one you have because they are only really fun with others to play with, thus it doesnt matter if you get DoA, Tekken or Street Fight II. There will not be many people who will buy a new console just for one of the fighting games but they may buy a fighting game for the console they already own. The same can be said for the biggest games like EA's Madden. If you own an 360, you are not going to get a PS3 to play Madden even if it is slightly better. You will simply buy the version for whatever console you own.

Forza is actually leaps and bounds better than Gran Turismo but they also fall under the optional flag for most gamers.

FF has been known to swing console sales (I myself baught a PS2 just to play and be disappointed by FFX). Halo & MGS are only insanely popular in the US. Not so much anywhere else but they do sell consoles especially MGS.

The average console gamer falls loosly under one of the 3 "console moving" categories. RPGer, FPSer, or Sports fan but the sports gamer usually doesnt care one way or another about what system they play on since the games and their ports are so similar. This brings it down to the RPGer (Japan) and FPSer (US) which is reflected by console sales historically.

360 (lots of good FPS) > PS3 (lots of RPG roots) in the US.
PS3 (lots of RPG roots) > 360 (lots of good FPS) in Japan.
Saturn (heavy RPG support) > PS in Japan for a while at least till it died.
PS > Saturn in the US where it failed miserably.
MMORPG's are huge in Asia but less in the US even taking WoW into consideration.
Counter Strike was huge in the US but less so in Asia.

The 360 is trying to gain market in Japan, but its close to impossible to get 3rd party support with less than 500k consoles sold. PS3 has the advantage of a solid history of sales across the globe so 3rd parties will be less nervous programming for them. Without Japan, the 360 will overtime be overtaken by the PS3, not because one is better than the other but because of lack of support in Japan while the PS has total global support although... the PS3 will need a huge a price drop to make it affordable. No console is worth $600 clams... hell I wouldnt even pay $300 but thats just me. The insane price tags as stunted the growth of both the 360 and PS3 and has actually allowed Nintendo to take the lead. Kind of ironic imho. In their effort to kill each other, they allowed the underdog to creep up and its probably costing them both. Wouldnt surprise me if they worked together next gen to eliminate Nintendo (common MS & Sony tactic historically).