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Cobretti2 on 11 December 2010
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RolStoppable said:
Carl2291 said:

The Wii with HD would also have a Classic Controller Pro. Not just the Wii Remote... Which wouldn't be bad for a whole bunch of games anyway. It would also be more expensive to develop for, thus reducing the amount of shovelware developers would release on it due to risk of flops.

The Gamecube was a 3rd place console that didn't break 22 Million units Worldwide. The Wii has done more than that in the US alone. It's stupid to compare them in that way.

The Wii would have had tremendous FPS support from developers. It would have had fantastic racing support. It would have just had amazing support full stop. It would still have Nintendo's own system sellers on it hitting 10/15/20 Million units each, and it would still get the GOOD clones of those said games.

Call of Duty 3 on the Wii outsold the PS3 version. The Wii, if in HD, would have got Call of Duty 4 on day 1. It's safe to assume, with CoD3 Wii > PS3, that CoD4 would also have outsold the PS3 version had it launched day 1. This would have given the Wii GREAT FPS support and possibly TPS support. The Wii missed out on CoD4 because the game engine wasn't ready for Wii. Had the Wii been HD... You would have had a potential 6 Million selling game right there. And we know what happened after CoD4...

The main thing I see you lot complaining about with this NFS game is that it looks like a PS1 game. If the Wii was in HD... It would have had a very similar looking game to PS3/360. You lot complain about the EA Sports games. If the Wii was HD it wouldn't have to have different art styles like All Play or whatever to try appeal to the stereotypical kiddy userbase that Wii has. Instead it would have the REALISTIC look, and thus... Appeal to more people who actually follow Football or whatever.

I'm sick of the same old people crying about the same crap over and over again. Nintendo are as much to blame for the Wii's 3rd party support as the 3rd parties themselves. Yet if you start a thread complaining about how Nintendo are making games that look like trash compared to games on the HD systems... It's trolling. Double standards ftw, eh?

The Wii without HD also has the Classic Controller (Pro) and it was ready to support since day one, so I am not sure what your point is. A lack of CC support is always the fault of the developer, because there is no rule that prevents anyone from supporting it.

The Gamecube and Wii have one significant fact in common: both were made by Nintendo and that's what third parties complain about. Even if the Wii was in HD, what guarantee is there that the console wouldn't get the worst versions? After all, that was the case on the Gamecube and coincidently, EA was the worst offender in regards to that and since this thread is about an EA game, we'll focus on what they have done with Nintendo consoles.

Whose fault is it that the new NfS (Wii) looks so bad? 100 % EA. If you disagree, you have to hold the position that this game displays the best result that is possible on the Wii. It certainly isn't, that's not even up for debate. EA made the game bad, not the Wii or Nintendo.

You mention EA's All-Play label and their move to cartoon graphics for the Wii versions of their sports games due to increased appeal to the Wii's demographics. You are basically saying that EA had to make these changes, because the market wanted those. But where are the sales numbers to prove that? The actual result was that their sales declined or remained the same each year, despite a bigger installed base to sell to. This means that EA messed up with all the changes they made to their sports games. Ironically, the one game they didn't drastically change, kept selling. At least until Tiger Woods' affairs became public and sales on all platforms took a large hit.

In conclusion: Why is NfS: HP atrocious? Because EA sucks. Why does EA fail to establish their franchises on the Wii? Because EA sucks. Can you blame Nintendo for the decisions EA made? I don't think so, Carl.

In regards to the bolded part,

Before the all play label crap come out and they showed the cartoon videos. EVERYONE that was a EA SPORTS FAN (ME INCLUDED) complained months in advance that this move is stupid and to bring back the realistic look (yes we knew it wouldn't be as good as HD twins). The argument was sports games need some realism to them to the bes tof the consoles abilities. If they did that everything would have been fine.

THIS WAS POSTED ON THEIR OWN FORUMS. THE NEON LIGHTS WERE FLASHING RED RIGHT IN THEIR OWN HOUSE AND THEY DIDN'T SEE THEM.