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[highwaystar101]

AussieGecko said:

highwaystar101 said:

Bold - 

And that's exactly why science works so well. Science isn't a set series of ideas, that are forever unchanging and never to be questioned. Science will always adapt to the new evidence, and with every generation of scientists that passes the theory will be more correct than it was before.

The argument you use to ridicule science is exactly the same reason why it works so well. All it does it expose a certain mindset you have.

Also, if people "believed" science without question like you claim, then science wouldn't work the way it does. Science is built on scepticism and enquiry.

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As for your last part, religious theories and scientific theories are two completely separate things.

Scientific theories are explanations of phenomena based on facts and evidence, when new facts come along, the theory changes to fit. They are not the same as religious theories.

 

Facts used to be whole truths I thought, now they are something that can be simply disproved down the road. Why cant religion be fact then. It hasnt been disproved so it should be fact till it is? Is that not the way of thinking of science?

 

Theories change. Facts don't (if they are correct).

New facts are discovered and are used to further refine the theory. If a fact contradicts a theory, then the theory must be adapted.

Surely you understand the ordering with facts and theories? I mean, I even outright explained it in my previous post.

 

Anyway. Away from the diversion and onto the beef...

What are these religious facts? and why do you think they should be considered in the same way as scientific facts?

Scientific theories are formed from facts, and with the theory predictions can be made about a phenomena, which will then be tested. We can do this in science for pretty much any theory (yes, even evolution, but I'm not getting into an evolution debate).

This is what gives a theory its falsifiability.

If the prediction disagrees with the theory, then we must rethink our theory using the current facts in such a way that the predictions work when tested. If our experiments line up with the predictions, then we know the theory works (as well as we are able to understand it of course).

What I would like to know is what facts are given by religion that can be used to form a testable and falsifiable theory?

If no such theory can be formed from the religious facts, then so called religious facts cannot be considered in the same way that scientific facts are.