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Porcupine_I said:

AussieGecko said:

UncleScrooge said:

It always strucks me how soon these things turn into a "religion vs science" discussion.

I remember in school people were pretty shocked (they literally couldn't believe it) that I was an atheist / agnostic. And they would always ask me "so you believe in science?" which would leave me pretty confused. You can't "believe" in science. Real religious belief is not the same as trusting scientific discoveries.

Religious belief goes way deeper than just "believing facts". Religion is not about "x and y happened".

Maybe some of you guys should read the work of James Fowler (just google him) then you'll realize that once you hit a certain..."stage" of religious belief there is no believing in religious "facts" anymore.

ooooooooh i love how the people that believe science without question. Like how we were guaranteed the oldest human was 100k years, then going on and going on and now we are up to 2 million.

Oh and raptors, guess what they have feathers, look at jurassic park, hell the lost world it was only recently they realised that they had feathers. Science is a bunch of theories until proven otherwise, and even then its not proven. It is simply a new discovery.

You can not simply criticise religion "theories" if you are trying to use science "theories" in defence.

but that is the thing about science, it is not a fixed structure that will be true for all eternity. it grows with new discoveries, new knowledge is added, new conclusions are made. it keeps evolving, but only ever adapting to itself.

 

religions though, they keep adapting themselves to science as good as they can since they are forced to do so.

 

of course believing in a fixed value is so much easier. people always craved certainty about things. unchanging rules give security. but that is just not how this universe works.

People do this all the time, it is one of the most commonly used techniques to "disarm" science as a whole; turning its greatest strength (updating and falsifying through renewal and further probing into a field or phenomenon) into a supposed weakness.

"Yeah but they always find out something else instead that replaces what we knew!" Yes, that's the gist of if and is the way that mankind has moved forward for ages, it is the key to progress and is what makes science viable and sound. Religion is often the antithesis to progress, as can be seen in the Dark Ages where virtually no tech, social structure or other societal improvements sprung up due to strict religious supervision and censorship.

I can't imagine what state we would be in if everyone just sat down and resigned from any intellectual activity simply because one can be wrong or proven wrong in the future. Where would we be then? And where would we be without science? One cannot imagine.