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AussieGecko said:
UncleScrooge said:

It always strucks me how soon these things turn into a "religion vs science" discussion.

I remember in school people were pretty shocked (they literally couldn't believe it) that I was an atheist / agnostic. And they would always ask me "so you believe in science?" which would leave me pretty confused. You can't "believe" in science. Real religious belief is not the same as trusting scientific discoveries.

Religious belief goes way deeper than just "believing facts". Religion is not about "x and y happened".

Maybe some of you guys should read the work of James Fowler (just google him) then you'll realize that once you hit a certain..."stage" of religious belief there is no believing in religious "facts" anymore.

ooooooooh i love how the people that believe science without question. Like how we were guaranteed the oldest human was 100k years, then going on and going on and now we are up to 2 million.

Oh and raptors, guess what they have feathers, look at jurassic park, hell the lost world it was only recently they realised that they had feathers. Science is a bunch of theories until proven otherwise, and even then its not proven. It is simply a new discovery.

You can not simply criticise religion "theories" if you are trying to use science "theories" in defence.

but that is the thing about science, it is not a fixed structure that will be true for all eternity. it grows with new discoveries, new knowledge is added, new conclusions are made. it keeps evolving, but only ever adapting to itself.

 

religions though, they keep adapting themselves to science as good as they can since they are forced to do so.

 

of course believing in a fixed value is so much easier. people always craved certainty about things. unchanging rules give security. but that is just not how this universe works.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’