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evolution_1ne said:
Michael-5 said:

You critisize me for saying that my point of view is followed by a large group of people, then you say things like "it's common sence that..." Since when did this become established? I have a PS3 and a 360, and I have more PS3 owning friends ten X-Box owning friends, and most of them admit the graphical different isn't that different. PS3 and 360 dodifferent things graphically better. Killzone 2 for example looks a lot better then Gears 2, but in a still screenshot, that might not be the case. It's because Gears 2 has higher quality textures, where the Killzone 2 just has more things running on screen at once. These are just the limitations of the consoles.

Your opinion is not the truth. Just because you and your friends think one way, doesn't mean everyone else does. There are numerous reviews, and articles online that put ME2 graphics above U2, and vice versa. Please don't be so condescending, thats just uncalled for.

I never said Forza has better trees, I said it has better environments. The city levels in GT5 look terrible. When I first put in GT5, I was expecting the graphics to blow me away, but in the end, the game was not that different on a graphical level then Forza 3. Interior car detail on GT5 is better, but then Forza has over 500 cars with an in car view, not just 200, so it's give take. Your mocking me for comparing Forza to GT5 in graphics, but this whole debate is about comparing games graphically, I don't understand you.

we must not be playing the same game....... find me ONE city level in Forza that looks as good/better than Rome, Madrid, Monaco, Tokyo. 

I don't think Forza Motorsport 3 has any city levels, except for New York Curcuit. However my memories of PGR4 tell me that the level of detail to the structures in GT5 is about the same. I'm not refering to the pre-rendered stuff way in the back in GT5, I'm talking about.

PGR4:

GT5:

The cars in GT5 >>> then PGR4, but the environments...hmm... Seriously GT5 dissapointed me graphically, it is no different then Forza 3. I could take images of different environments and show you how they look better in Forza as well, but the above shows enough.



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