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richardhutnik said:
makingmusic476 said:
 

 

richardhutnik said:

Wow, I wish free services like what the PS3 and Wii have had nearly the same level of demos that XBox does.  Because people pay for online play, everything from Game Room to Indie games, gets demos.  Demos on the Playstation 3?  Well, mostly the major disk based released.  Playstation store distributed exclusives don't get any.  As far as the Wii goes, that is NONE available online.

Now, back to the original premise.  Somehow, this premise is that large numbers of gamers will magically organize themselves and decide not to pay for Live, thus Microsoft would be forced to discontinue charging for online play... well, based on my first-hand experience, that wish is one that won't happen, no matter how much people wish it be so.  No guarantee Microsoft would end up dropping the fee if membership went down.  Shoot, they might even decide to INCREASE prices.  So, you then get lots of people without XBox Live, and playing online.

Want to get organized for something?  How about getting organized for something more important, like helping people find work, or helping the poor?  Or, something even more simple, which is gaming related: Ignore Pachter to the place where VGChartz will stop dedicating articles to his predictions?  I am yet again graced with a Pachter article once more when I pop on here, this time declaring the PSP2 dead before it is even released.

Paying for LIve is entirely unrelated to the fact that Microsoft mandates that all XBLA games have a demo.  Providing a demo is only an added burden for the developer, who then has to prepare multiple builds of their products for release.  Sony could easily mandate demos for all PSN releases as well, but they simply choose not to, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they aren't charging for online play. 

Though I agree that such a practice is disappointing.  If only this thread were about ps3 or Wii, maybe we could talk about this more in-depth.

And I'll go make a thread on helping people find work right now, if that's what constitutes "getting organized" in your book.  =/

This would end up going off on a tangent if it were discussed fully.  I would add here, that maybe it exists because Microsoft mandates demos for everything.  However, with the PS3, Sony charges fees to developers for each time demos or content is downloaded.  It is a fee for each Gig of bandwidth used for downloading.  Sony and Nintendo follow different business models, which result in different services being provided to people who use their services.  Instead of pay to play online, Sony decides to do Playstation Plus at $50/year, which is to access discounts and some free content.  The pay to play online enables Microsoft to do things differently.

Hey on the thread to help people get work, it would likely require a lot more, but I am up for something in this area.


Again... you can get demos without paying for XBL, I do it all the time!



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