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kowenicki said:
Reasonable said:
smbu2000 said:
LivingMetal said:
smbu2000 said:
LivingMetal said:
LovePeace said:

360 beats PS3 in GT5 launch Week.

360 is a BEAST!


Not really with only a relative 40,000 difference when you consider that the Xbox 360 has almost always greatly outsold the PS3 in the Americas and the casual audience target of Kinect.  But that's just my humble opinion.

:)

Seriously? The 360 sold 540k WW last year (and was outsold by the PS3 in Americas 486k vs. 353k). This year the 360 has sold 844k WW (up over 300k YOY) and outsold the PS3 in the Americas 604k vs. 411k. The PS3 even had Sony's biggest franchise game launch, giving it an extra boost.

I'd say the 360 is doing extremely well at the moment.


The keyword here is "context" in which the Xbox 360 is a beast in comparison to PS3 sales which isn't, again, in my humble opinion.  But, yes, the Xbox 360 sales itself is a beast, but so is the PS3 just not quite as the Xbox 360.

Last year PS3's 778k vs. 360's 540k. This year PS3's 803k (w/GT5 launch) vs. 360's 844k. I'd say it is a beast in comparison to the PS3. Many people thought the PS3 would do over 1 million with GT5's launch and Black Friday. Instead it gets outsold by the 360...


Both are over 800K and within 40K of each other, you simply can't claim either is a beast vs the other.  They both did well and - predictably - their results were skewed by region, indicating that while the boosts are good the current status quo where 360/Kinect is more attractive in US and PS3/Move is more attractive outside US (relative to each others sales by region) hasn't changed much nor seems likely to.

What I would accept is MS played the Kinect release very well, timing it close to the holidays and linked to some great deals.  Move releasing earlier allowed Sony to get to market first, but meant the initial interest and peaks had weakened much more than Kinect.

GT5 put PS3 ahead in EMEA, but in US it's just not as big and I'd argue racing titles in US overall have slumped a bit this gen.

Result, a very close week in percentage ratio.  Great performances by both HD consoles - neither is beast relative to the other.

Now, if you want to talk about the Wii's seasonal boost relative to the HD consoles and it's recent sales - well, that is a bit of a beast of a seasonal boost!


I agree with a lot of that... except that MOVE is bigger in EMEAA than Kinect. 

We dont know that yet and I strongly suspect it wont be in the medium term.  I think Kinect is actually already bigger than MOVE in Europe amongst the existing user base, the question is if either can really push into new console purchases.


I didn't mean Move itself, more PS3/Move combo compared to 360/Kinect combo.   I do think in UK for sure Kinect has appealed more to existing owners than Move.  I'm actually feeling that both Kinect/Move have appealed to existing owners more than Sony/MS might have thought vs new owners.  It's always the standalone versions of each that are hard to get vs bundles.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...