Booh! said:
nightsurge said:
Booh! said:
nightsurge said:
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
nightsurge said:
You are misunderstanding again. The percentage of error would ONLY be on the small amount of untrackable locations. That means out of 2.5 million, only a small portion would have to be estimated, and only of that small portion would the margin of error apply, making it meaningless and would not dilute the overall numbers at all.
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Do you have any proof of any of that, so far you have no proof MS even has a tracking system, and no proof it has any reliability if it does, everything you say is an assumption based on something which isn't even clearly stated, nowhere in the article does it say the 2.5 is sold to consumers, nowhere does it say MS tracked it, nowhere does it say where they are even getting their numbers from and yet you want to take it at less then face value (since they didn't even clearly say it was sold to consumers)
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Goodness. The ENTIRE article is focused around sales to consumers. Do you really need it spelled out to you?
"We are thrilled about the consumer response to Kinect"
"With sales already exceeding two and a half million units in just 25 days, we are on pace to reach our forecast of 5 million units sold to consumers this holiday."
Combine these with their statement after 10 days which was sold to consumers, and Aaron Greenberg's confirmations.
You are arguing with me about proof when you can provide no proof to the contrary...
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That's just PR spreading confusion. Let's take the report from Nintendo: "Nintendo sold 900,000 combined units in the Nintendo DS™ family of systems and 600,000 Wii™ consoles between Sunday, Nov. 21, and Saturday, Nov. 27, according to the company’s internal sales estimates."
It's clear, readable, you cannot spin it, it says "we sold that much to consumers according to our company estimates". On the other hand MS report is just a bad advertisement, it doen't explain anything.
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It didn't say sold to consumers anywhere in what you quoted...
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It' obvious, you don't need sales estimates for shipped numbers. Nintendo is very clear, when they say sales they mean sales to consumers, when the say shipments, they mean... well... shipments.
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How is something obvious when it isn't stated? That seems rather unclear to me. Do you have other examples of them using "shipped" and "sales" to mean different things?
Just as I and the majority of others here seem to think MS's report was obvious in representing sold to consumers figures yet some here just have to nit pick and won't accept the evidence supplied to them.
