GT5 - Success of Failure? A list of pros/cons

[Michael-5]

libellule said:

Michael-5 said:

Userbase is meaningless, but if you really want I can also write that down as a con for why GT5 will sell less then GT1-4. Less PS3's mean less sales right? Did GT3 not outsell GT4 when less PS2's were around? Did GT1 not do the same against GT2? Did MGS4 sell just as well as MGS3? Did GoW3 sell as well as GoW 2? Userbase only matters to purely casual games like Mario Kart (which sold 1/3rd as many units as there are consoles out there on the N64, GCN, and Wii).

You can't apply this logic only to one aspect (GT5P in Japan) and not to others (GT5 total sales), thats just foolish.

You really like to press your opinion as facts don't you?

WE are applying this logic too

GT5 will sell less than the past GT because of the reduced userbase

But YOUR point using GTprologue sales as an argue is pointless considering the almost identical sales between the 2 Prologue despite the HUGE userbase difference (close to 1/10 !!!)

So YOUR point on Prologue is a false claim supported by no data

According to VGChartz there were about 17.8 million PS2's in Japan upon luanch of GT4, and the game ended up selling 1.26 million copies in Japan.

However GT3 was released in Japan when only about 4.4 million PS2's were on the market and it ended up sellin 1.89 million units total.

According to your logic as well as Hus's, this should have been impossible. GT3 was released on a userbase about 1/4th the size, but GT3 still ended up selling about 1.5 times better.

Installbase arguements are meaningless. Halo Reach, MGS4, and GoW3 are recent example proving this (sold as well as their predecessors despite a significantly different install base)

Yes GT5P was released on an install base 1/10th the size, but it also had 3 years to accumulate sales, instead of 1, and didn't have another GT game to take away Prologue sales. The difference in sales is only 7% or so, but the timeframe to sell is A LOT longer.

So this point counts, and is valid, but I will not be putting PS3 having a smaller userbase then PS1/PS2 as a con unless someone can give me a really good reason.