When do you think ps3 will outsell 360

[Solid_Snake4RD]

Michael-5 said:

First of all, I want to say I did you and the VGChartz forums a favor. I cut out a lot of the replies that were purely designed to demean me.

how is that helping me and VGC,that helped you write less

When you calim I "twist the trust", "make false mistakes" "falsify numbers" or try to demean in in some way or another, I just cut it out.

so do it,what are you telling me all that

Okay, now look, I know in the past we have have heated debates that lead to negative consequences on your end. I don't want to have anything so stupid as before. You don't have to agree with me, I don't want you to. All I want to do is present suporting or contradicting arguements, and I want to debate them with you. I'm fine that you beleive the PS3 will overtake the 360 in sales, who am I to tell your your opinion is wrong? You do have some good points.

nobody has to agree with anybody,we are having a debate.its just that when the other person tells you sometime,you just don't take it it or take it negatively just not ready to let your argument go.

You tell me "you respect people and take their advice,they will take yours and respect you", but how does demeaning me show respect for me? Many of your posts are not replies to the arguement I made, but calims of me "twisting the truth."

i wasn't trying to demean anybody,you know i have corrected and tried to advice you in many of our posts but you never come on the right track.its like you took something from one ear and let it go from the other and you reply with the same reponse as before

Lets start on a new slate. No more insults, no more talking down, no demeaning, none of this bs. If I offend you in some way, or if you feel I have ignored your post, just point out where. Don't add the insult, please, it's no fun debating when half the debate is just rude trash talking. I'm at fault too, I know, so just point out where I offend you in future debates.

i didn't try to demean you anywhere but after repeated telling you to correct it got heated and you always took my reply and advice as insult.its a debate man,just listen to the other guy

I think for this debate specifically, we should leave it at this:

You believe PS3 will overtake 360 sales in ______________________________ and _________________________________________ (You can fill this in yourself).

well i already did,it is  mid-2011

I believe 360 will hold second place in the lifetime of the console. I believe this because I think Kinect bundles will push as many, or more consoles as Move bundles and the peripheral will hold popularity until a successor console arrives.

again,you just don't have to bring MOVE in here cause its not necessary.this is how these where you bring in something that is not needed to support your arguments.

and abt the prediction,so when do you think the next gen will start?

and you really think a $100 PS3 price-cut won't be able to cover a 2.9m gap?

the fact that i say is that price is the biggest thing that has faultered PS3 sales always and the under $200 means $199 is a huge deal and bring those middle-class families in for the purchases.most of last gens sales came at $149.

its like when a product is $1000 and the price gets cut to $800,you don't care cause its still way expensive.by when it cuts to $400 from $1000,that bring in the low income public.thats what PS3 still hasn't hit

I also believe a potential price cut of PS3 to $200 will be offset by a 360 Elite price cut to $200, and a 360 Arcade price cut to $130.

again this is what i find total nonsense to even bring the ELITE sales and price in,it won't matter as arcade is what matters the most

and arcade is already in the reach of the low incomes families.so a further price-cut stimulates sales but not that much.the PS3 is out of the low income groups ability to purchase.

another thing,MS won't cut it to $70,its just not worth at a $50 pricecut is what will be needed.then a year later they can got to $130 or $100

 

I believe the sales difference will fluctuate consistantly between PS3 and 360, as it has in the past, and the difference will never lead PS3 to be supperior, nor will it grant the 360 will a lead in total sales of over 10 million.

again,your arguments are off the roof.

you don't take a considerate number but straight to 10million

well i believe the the gap will stay this way and then shrink in Q1(Jan -mar)

another indication

you know how much push the 360 got when 360 redesign happened,everybody was saying it obliterated the wii and PS3.but it didn't.PS3 sold way more than it in this quarter

Finally I think software arguements are also BS, 360 software is above PS3 weekly software, and I have shown in previous debates that 360 has just as many if not more quality exclusive titles being released in the comming years, and in the past.

now here did this come from,this again what i am talking about.this wasn't anywhere in our debate and you briought it in.this is also trying to get me to enter in a new debate

AND again if you think

Gears 3,forza 4,etc is able to compete with this:

Twisted metal

infamous 2

resistance 3

killzone 3

agent

final fantasy 13 versus

gran turismo 5

little big planet 2

last guradian

 

this is being optimistic

and this is why our debate doesn't go properly cause you just think all this is not going to have any effect and what ever 360 is going to have will push sales but what PS3 has will have no push and over that its sales will decrease

In a different thread we can have a different debate. A Civil one, free of insults and trash talking. However I don't think there is much hope improving this specific debate, and I think continuing would just be a poor representation of VGChartz forums.

continuing this and solving our discussion would be better for VGC,not just 2 jackasses(me and you,just kidding no insult) debate for a while and then leave it to burn