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Soriku said:
Legend11 said:
Soriku said:
Legend11 said:
HappySqurriel said:
Legend11 said:
HappySqurriel said:

I'll try to explain this to you ...

One of the main reasons Nintendo is so dominant on the Wii is because they're the only developer who has produced a high number of high quality conventional games; some developers (Capcom, Namco, Ubisoft) have started to notice this and are attempting to bring high quality conventional games to the Wii. The dichotomy you have produced in claiming that you have the choice between conventional games on the XBox 360 or unconventional (mostly shovelware) on the Wii is laughably false.

 


Really? PROVE IT.

Do the following:

1) Make a list of upcoming Wii games.
2) Remove all Nintendo 1st/2nd party games (we're really talking about third party games).
3) Remove the cheap crap/budget titles like Catz, Dogz, etc.
4) Remove the cheap spinoff games like FFCC, RE: UC, etc.
5) Remove the cheap JRPG games.
6) Remove the cheap minigame compilations.
7) Remove the cheap PS2 ports.
8) Remove the cheap movie/book/tv license games.
9) Remove the cheap quirky low cost games like Endless Ocean (oops that's Nintendo but you get the point).
10) Remove the cheap sub-$2million crap that didn't get removed by any of the previous steps.
11) Remove the multiplatform games appearing on 360/PS3/PC.

Now what do you have left? Here I'll save you the trouble, NOT MUCH.


Ok, prove to me that the XBox 360 will have any games in 2010 ... Wow they must not exist ... Confirmed XBox 360 is dead in 2010 ... So what is the XBox 360's replacement? ... Wow it must not exist ... Confirmed Microsoft is leaving the console market.

... To rephrase that, if you're not going to be inteligent and rational maybe you shouldn't post.

Most games released in a year are not announced years in advance; it is actually kind of shocking to me the number of XBox 360 and PS3 games that were announced before the systems were released that are now expected to be released in 2008.


I could list some of the new games announced this year for the 360 like Hydrophobia, Tomb Raider: Underworld, Just Cause 2, Deus Ex 3, Hitman 5, The Crossing, Prince of Persia 4, Saints Row 2, Earth No More, Shellshock 2, Command & Conquer: Tiberium, Dark Void, Project Offset, EA's Dead Space, Dynasty Warriors 6, Bioshock 2, etc to show that there are still a lot of very big games taking up a lot of third party resources that were either started this year or not long ago. Yet when I make such a list for the Wii the list of games like that is a lot smaller and that is not even taking into account the many games that I haven't listed for the 360 that we know are in development but have no idea what they are like THQ's big RPG for the 360/PS3/PC coming in 2009 or later for example.

I'm not the one that is arguing that things are going to change significantly so I don't feel I should have to be the one to prove anything. I think the Wii will get some great third party games along with all the shovelware but I just don't see it getting the majority of the kinds of games I've been talking about or that there will be a huge shift of such development from the PC/360/PS3 to the Wii. I just don't see it happening.


The bolded games weren't announced for 360 this year, nor any other console. Show me proof to back this up. And when was Just Cause 2 announced for 360?

http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/Just_Cause_2_Confirmed_10829_6279_0.htm


 

OK, but you made up the rest.

Well you already confirmed Tomb Raider: Underworld yourself...  Prince of Persia 4 is actually going to be called Prince of Persia: Ghosts of the Past and is being made for the PC/360/PS3.  Shellshock 2 is in production for the 360/PS3 and you can even go to IGN and look it up.  Eidos confirmed a new Hitman was in production earlier this year.  As for Bioshock 2, Take-Two's chairman basically said he sees Bioshock as part of a franchise but I guess you got me on that one and we'll have to wait for an official confirmation.

Here're some more games as well...  Just replace Bioshock 2 with one of these if you want...  Tom Clancy's Air Combat, Avatar, Assassin's Creed 2 (it's a no brainer), Wolfenstein (includes side quests, open city), Alive, APB, Dead Island, Harker, Silent Hill 5, LMNO, Alien, Precursors, Rainy Woods, Totems, 2 Days 2 Vegas, Rage...

Basically what I'm getting at is that there are a lot of games like this coming to the 360/PS3/PC next year and 2009...  I just don't see a huge shift of hardcore games happening next year to be honest.  Maybe Wii third party software domination will begin around the same time as PS3 hardware domination (who knows...).