daroamer said:
Reasonable said:
Mr Puggsly said:
nordlead said:
Mr Puggsly said:
shuraiya said:
Sometime around E3, I seem to recall Harmonix saying they were looking into bringing Dance central to move because it was possible.
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Well unless they created some ground breaking software that gives a simple webcam the same capabilities as the Kinect, I doubt it.
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My friend (at my work) wrote software that does exactly what Kinect does using a webcam, Multiple Human body tracking. It really isn't all that ground breaking for what they are using it for. Simple Dancing. Now, I'm not saying my friends webcam is as good as kinect or has all the same features, but it would be good enough for dance central.
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Pardon my reluctance to believe that your friend's program, "does exactly what Kinect does using a webcam."
We really don't know how Dance Central takes advantage of the Kinect or if your friend's program would offer the same experience.
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How do you think existing webcams know I'm holding my hand out in a certain position to indicate activate / de-activate something? I've played with plenty of webcam based routines that do the same thing in principle - work out whether you are in a certain position or not.
So it's definately doeable. Will a webcam be as accurate as Kinect? Not sure, probably not quite unless the lighting was good and the resolution suitably good to allow for clear rendering of the body position image, but for the average joe swaying in their living room I can guarantee it can easily be accurate enough to deliver what is perceived by the player as the same experience (with the possible exception Kinect may be better in lower light due to the IR and skeletal tracking).
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Harmonix made games for EyeToy, they know the tech. They say couldn't do it until Kinect came along.
Are you saying they don't know what they're talking about?
The ONLY people I ever see claim all this stuff is possible are forum dwellers, I never see developers go "Oh Kinect? We can do all the same stuff on the EyeToy."
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I'm saying it has to be understood that they're talking about ease of achieving something, not black and white could/couldn't. As I made clear Kinect should be an easier platform for something like this. But, as a programmer myself I can see that the title in a very similar form could definately be supported just via a webcam (of suitable resolution) backed with suitable image recognition software.
Also, let's be frank, they have a product to promote and for sure they are over-egging the uniqueness of Kinect to the equation. Just Dance on Wii provides to the player essentially the same experience - you dance. So I'm not saying they don't know what they're talking about, I'm saying it's pretty obvious they are putting a marketing spin on their comments.
As I also noted both the PS3 and Wii already have successful IP in this space, and they obviously have some form of exclusive agreement with MS at this point, so in their shoes what do you expect them to say?
They noted themselves they could probably bring this title to the Move and you just have to look at what needs to be supported for the title to understand they probably could.
