Wow, this thread has gone on longer than I thought it would. And I'm loving the adjustments and the relative quiet that it has brought to the forums. 
@ scat
You can't judge Move's succes based on what Kinect initially sells. I mean what if Kinect sells more than Move initially, but Move goes on to sell 2 or 3 times as much as Kinect? Will it still have been a failure? The point is, however, is that Move can NOT be labeled a failure at all, now. Its already sold 2.5 mil to retailers, without Japan and all of EMEAA, with some predicting it may sell ~ 4 mil by the end of the year. The recent adjustments have shown it has boosted the PS3 numbers above all the home consoles since its launch, this week it's even above the DS. It's already a good-sized success. And in 2011, we will learn how large Move can grow.
