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DirtyP2002 said:

I think the easiest way is the best way here: Follow VGC numbers. ioi said something about 500k in the first month and this sounds reasonable according to every tracking service we have access to. (GFK, Enterbrain / Charttrack, NPD, VGC)

So move had a decent start. It did not flop big time and it did not take the world by storm either.

The problem will occur with people saying Move outsold device XXX (most likley Kinect) and do so according to shipped numbers. I mean it is obvious that Sony tracks every single piece of the Move experience as a sold PS Move. While Kinect is basically one device per household.

I think the best way to check the impact of these devices are software sales. Not just Sports Champion vs Kinect Adventures but software overall. The next problem will be like this: "OMFG Killzone 3 sold 2 million, move outselling Kinect!" while Killzone 3 obviously will sell even without Move support. The VERY best way: Compare Move only with Kinect only titles. Sorcery and Dance Central seem to be a nice indicator for the impact of those two new devices.

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And WHY is this the very best way? Because it might favor your view on the whole matter? I think that's pure bullshit, as PS3 will have titles with DS3 and MOVE support, why shouldn't these be counted? Because you don't like that. For all you know Killzone 3 might sell 1m extra copies because of MOVE, same thing with LBP2.

"I think the easiest way is the best way here: Follow VGC numbers." - You know what I think? I think the easiest way is to follow Sony numbers, because compared to VGC numbers (no offense) they are actually true numbers and not only estimates (especially for MOVE who VGC said would be harder to track. You feel we should use VGC numbers only, because they suit your view.

"The problem will occur with people saying Move outsold device XXX (most likley Kinect)"... I think you should rephrase that to: "The problem FOR ME will occur with people saying Move outsold device XXX (most likley Kinect)" - Because you will obviously have a problem with it.

"I think the best way to check the impact of these devices are software sales." - Yes, that's why you choose to count MOVE only title right? Because those will be the only titles selling to MOVE users right? You actually contradict yourself in your own post. Great work Maestro!!

Might as well write us a straight post, and tell us that you actually don't want to see MOVE to be successful (or Sony at all for that matter). That's what I do, and I get banned for it, because that's obviously "trolling". At least I say what I mean and don't try to sneakily imply it in every single post I make. It's getting pretty tiresome reading all this unnoticed (mostly by the MODS of course) stealth trolling going on. I mean, it's so obvious it's not even funny. It's ruining my READING and making me REPLYING, and I don't like writing posts.... because I'm angry... and I want to keep my account.