johnglen said:
thismeintiel said:
Seece said:
thismeintiel said:
It's so funny to see all the doubters spew nonsense like "Oh, but this is shipped not sold." No, really? When does any company tell you how many they have sold to customers unless it's something special, like Christmas sales? Never. So I guess when MS publishes its shipped numbers for Kinect, you guys won't be using them on the forums. I doubt that very much.
And while I like VGC, there is no way they can even claim to be accurate with their Move sales. The main reason is this is the first time they have tried tracking a piece of hardware that is seperate from the console. I know ioi is using what he called "historical controller data" to determine how many are buying Move that already have a PS Eye, but it's still impossible to calculate since Move probably breaks any trends that were from previous generations. There's just way too many variables when estimating these things. Plus, as many have already stated, you can't go by Move required SW sales to see the units sold, as everyone who has bought Heavy Rain, RE5, MAG previously are potential customers. Not to mention the 3 or 4 PSN games that are able to use the Move, as well.
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Course we will, and there is nothing wrong with reporting SHIPPED figures, just like they'll be SHIPPED for Kinect and not sold like Microsoft will state. Most Microsoft fans here seem to get this .
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I don't know. You may want to read a few more of their comments before you start speaking for them. Most seem to be just repeating "It's SHIPPED not SOLD!!" Which I think most of us get, as that's what all companies do. However, when Kinect launches I doubt many will still feel the same about shipped vs. sold as they do here.
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First of all here we are talking about starter bundles plus move standalone controllers, at the very least (i am not saying about navigation controllers, i'll give sony the benefit of a doubt there) so a comparison with kinect is pointless.
Secondly i believe there won't be any need to quote any MS shipped/sold numbers, the kinnect effect will be seen from day 1 in everything xbox360-related . You won't see sub-30k best selling games or sub-10k hardware bossts here ,believe me.
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Well, for your sake I hope your right. You seem to putting a lot of faith in this one product.