Belief in God produces Hell on Earth

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kowhoho said:

Smidlee said:

kowhoho said:

Smidlee said:

kowhoho said:

pizzahut451 said:

I dont think i have EVER in my life seen so much double standared hypocrites and ignornce in one plce as i have in this thread today. Dear God...

I haven't been keeping up with this thread (as it's entirely derailed at this point). If you wouldn't mind terribly could you give some examples of this hypocracy so I could have even a small chance of re-entering this conversation?

The last page or so is riddled with convoluted quote boxes and italiced/non-italicized text and everyone is using different formatting techniques. It's all very confusing! >.<

Maybe he is referring to the fact if there is no God then there is no such thing as gay rights or any other rights. The universe nor nature itself  does not reveals right vs wrong including killing,rape,etc . Killing is very natural. Again atheist is a "nothing" which of itself stand for or against nothing. Without God the only rights  that exist is the one government gives you which are in the position of God.

Our emotions are the product of thousands of years of evolution. Morality is a product of natural selection. We work best as a species when we work collaboratively, which is the reason why we nurture our young and love each other. It's not that it makes those emotions any less "real," though. The big bad government isn't the only thing we can look to in leiu of religion; our morality can be based solely off of social interaction and past experience.

you do realize this is a religous belief itself and can't be proven with hard facts. How do you know ours moral comes from evolution?

Let me set something straight here. Evolution is not a religious belief (i.e. it has a logical foundation). Everything from the fossil record to a recent experiment involving some 40,000 generations of E-coli (which over just 20 years of experimentation evolved the ability to utilize citrate which is impossible in the wild strain of the bacteria) provide very solid evidence for the phenomenon of evolution. While we cannot be completely, 100% certain of anything(...ever!), probability tips the scale almost completely in favor of the evolutionary theory.

My hypothesis regarding the origins of morality is also not without basis. Quite simply, at the point in time when our primate ancestors branched off into two separate evolutionary paths, homo sapiens differentiated from others in their collaborative effort, skill for communication and improvisation of tools. We still carry these traits today. Other current day primates also work collaboratively to hunt prey and so on.

It's ridiculous to say that evolution is a religious belief. This would imply that you are solely using faith to provide evidence for what you think (believing something with no evidence to speak of), whereas we can be relatively certain (by your logic nobody can't "know" anything at all) that the phenomena described in evolutionary theory are sound.

Science and Religion can and should co-exist.  Albert Einstein acknowledged a Creator or God.  Just sayin.

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind."

"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."

"Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble."

Those are just a few choice nuggets.