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Khuutra on 17 October 2010
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axt113 said:
Khuutra said:

It's diversity in terms of genre, of which 2D vs 3D is only a single aspect.

2D does not equate to success, nor does 3D equate to failure. Your assertion is inherently fallacious.

That's incorrect,  I'm pointing to actual sales figures, both of games and of consoles, 3D games (well 3D games like Galaxy, Other M and Zelda, as I pointed out some 3D games like Wii sports are huge successes) do tend to equal failure, so saying that its fallacious, is fallacious in itself, since the facts of the matter prove that they are failures, even when they sell ok, they fail to push hardware, now a lot of 2D games have been shown to push hardware, so I'm saying focus on those games that push hardware, old school games, and expanded games, and leave the 3D games, like galaxy behind.

I never disagreed that there shouldn't be more than one genre, but you need to focus on the genres that actually push hardware and keep momentum, genres that do neither should be left to third parties

You talk about sales figures withotu actually citing any and without giving qualifications for any of htem, particularly qualifying what constitutes "failure".

The only game which you refer to which couldh ave reasonably been expected to move hardware would have been Mario Galaxy and (possibly) Twilight Princess - you point out, rightly, that neither of these games coincided with a marked uptick in Wii system sale.s But that's a fallacious point in and of itself. Don't you remember? SMG released in 2007, back when the Wii was sitll selling out every week. Causing a trackable uptick in adoption wouldn't have been possible for any game, including NSMBWii, when the system was already selling out. The context in which you are citing these numebrs is already wrong.

Name theg ames in 2-D that have been shown to push hardware on the Wii. I believe you can name.... one. When it comes to 3-D games that can move hardware, I can name at least five (Mario Kart, Wii Sports, Resort, Fit, Plus, Play, and yes, even Galaxy).

You have not qualified any of hte games you're referring to as failures - but don't bother with Other M, I agree that it is a failure. It should be mentioned though that it was not a failure as a hardware mover, because it was never intended to move hardware.

Again, yoru assertions so far are not grounded in reality. Cite games. Cite sale figures. Weh ave a tab right up there - it's "VGChartz" - where you can grab all the figrues you need.