Belief in God produces Hell on Earth

[Joelcool7]

pearljammer said:

Joelcool7 said:

 

Well for your information I know two friends who are homosexual by choice and not naturally. Both grew up straight and I know they were straight because I was pretty tight with them, they were even more straight then me they had posters all over their walls of half naked chicks and porno's under their beds they were as straight as they come.

How can one be more straight than somone else? That has to be among the most absurd things I've heard someone say seriously in quite some time.

When I refered to the children I wasn't only refering to adoptions but also what the homosexual rights groups are doing in our schools (Here in Canada). Also note that your suicides and such that you talk about are in America and possibly other countries. Here in Canada I have known many homosexuals and bi-sexuals in my schools and they were not bullied. yes people got called a fag but it really had nothing to do with sexual orientation I got called a fag almost daily.

You're really using a broad brush to describe what both the public and our schools' attitudes are toward homosexuality.

I'm canadian and I teach at a high school. Behind academics, bullying is the number two priority in my school. Among the cases of bullying this year, the vast majority are based on the suspicion of homosexuality. Actually, there isn't one openly gay student in the entire school; obviously there are likely quite a few fearful of coming out.This is especially problematic in our smaller towns. However, I have taught at a larger city, and while the issue is lessened, it is still a major problem.

My cousin grew uptrying to hide his homosexuality from both his peers and his family. His peers were keen to it, or at least they had suspected it - regardless, it ended with the same result. We was bullied to often in school that he had actually become physically sick and had begun to abuse himself as an excuse to avoid going to school.  

Most kids in these types of situations typically have at least their parents to turn to, however in some cases they, too, turn their back on their kids because of thei homosexuality. Imagine having to live with that solitary fear... Being shuned, by both peer and family, from something entirely out of your control. I can't imagine you could; You seem far too fearful and apprehensive of homosexuality/homosexuals to at least recognize that many homosexuals often face unique and more intense hardships than other kids.

Bullying is a big deal in all schools, I agree Fag is a term used alot though in my personal experiance it is rarely actually aimed at a homosexual individual. I don't know where you teach but I live near Vancouver in the fastest growing city in Canada.

I won't deny gays get bullied but at least in the school I attended I was picked on alot for being a homophobe. Bisexuality is more common than homosexuality and their were bi orgies from groups of catholics which suprised me. Fact is gays did get bullied but so did nerds and other groups they were no more picked on then anyone else. Everyone was going Bi and as I said two of my friends went gay.

I went to the biggest inner city school in the city. I was offered a glock on the way to class once for 100$ and a joint inside science class. Fights broke out daily and the police were called in almost every day to break them up. I was bullied my whole life including highschool and I was bullied about being a homophobe.

P.S- my moms a kindergarten teacher here in BC and has to teach gay sex ed to the kindergarteners. Homosexuality here is becoming more and more common.

Their are clichs in my school and gays and bi's had their own groups, just like any other click's bullying obviously occured but the gay movement was extremely popular in my school.

 

numonex said:

What you are saying in regards to homosexuals due to your religious/personal beliefs can be interpreted as homophobia.

Homophobes advocate hate crimes and hostility towards the homosexual community. Hate crimes include attacking people on the grounds of race, religion, sexuality and gender. Homophobia and racism need to be stamped out of society.

Hate crimes create huge political issues within the community. Hate crimes need to be punished severely to ensure they never happen. Hate crimes create civil unrest, widespread protests and revenge attacks. 

Homophobes will even make themselves out to be a victim. So you are a "victim" it makes it ok for you to attack homosexuals based on your beliefs? Christians believe they are morally superior to homosexuals. Bigotry and narrow mindedness attached to Christianity come hand in hand. Religious ultra conservatives are well known for their labelling and stereotyping people based on their archaic religious belief systems. Homophobes just like racists are  ignorant/intolerant towards minority groups. 

I support gay marriages and same-sex marriages. Homosexuality is a normal lifestyle/minority group and they deserve equal rights as every other human being, To deny gay marriage is to be against human rights. I do not care about draconian/archaic religious belief systems. It is time religions get a modern overhaul and get up to date with the real world. 

Minority groups are  becoming more accepted as religion becomes irrelevant in liberal democracies. Minority groups still need to keep fighting for equality. 

So now I'm commiting hate crimes by having an opinion? This is exactly the shit I'm talking about. If I disagree with you or any other gay individual it is homophobia, this is the first time I have been accused of actually commiting a hate crime and attacking gays. How do you figure I'm attacking anyone?