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unknown_soul89 on 16 October 2010
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loves2splooge said:
unknown_soul89 said:
loves2splooge said:

Wasn't there a huge controversy about needing an actual Xbox 360 hard drive to play Halo: Reach's online co-op? Apparently a flash drive or the 4 GB internal flash that comes with the Slim won't suffice for online co-op.

If you are getting an Xbox 360 to play online co-op, don't get the 4 GB Slim because you won't be able to play online co-op. Wait it out, save up the extra $100 plus tax and get the 250 GB model.

I'm one of those gamers that bought the Xbox 360 Arcade first and then bought the hard drive after. Luckily for me, the $110 60 GB Xbox Live Starter Pack (60 GB hard drive headset 3 months xbl gold ethernet cable. HD AV cables not included but I use HDMI so I didn't need them) was actually kinda reasonably priced at the time considering that the 60 GB Pro at the time was going for $100 more than the Arcade then. But nowadays if you were to buy the hard drive seperately, it's a total rip-off. 250 GB hard drive = $150. So in the end you'd end up paying $50 more. To gamers who don't live with the rents and don't have that much income, $300 is a lot of dough to spend in one shot so it's good that Microsoft offers a $200 sku. But online co-op is such a vital experience for the Xbox 360's core audience. And the Xbox 360 is so infamous for scratching discs (though the newer models might have fixed this issue) that going without HD installs doesn't seem worth it.

Ideally MS should let you use third-party hard drives in your Xbox 360 like the PS3 does. But I'd imagine that profit margins on the $200 Xbox are thin (compared to the $300 Xbox 360 and PS3. The $300 PS3 Slim is profitable for Sony and considering that the Xbox 360 doesn't have Blu-Ray, M$ must be making a good penny with their $300 250 GB 360). So I don't blame Microsoft for their tactics. They need to cover costs. And if everyone bought the $200 Xbox and installed their own hard drives, Microsoft probably wouldn't be making shit profit-wise. Microsoft isn't a charity. They're in the console gaming business to make money.

So you're defending a corrupt company who already makes billions off of scamming people for nickel and dimming you? What is wrong with you 360 fans

Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are all evil and corrupt. Capitalism is a bitch like that. I'm not happy about Microsoft locking out third-party hard drives but let's be realistic here. If everyone bought a $200 360 and then installed their own third-party hard drives, there would be no more Xbox (If Sony is so much better, wheres their $200 PS3? At least MS tries to give gamers on a budget an option instead of launching their consoles at $500-600 and telling gamers to get a second job. Obviously the $300 sku is better but you get what you pay for right?). Xbox wouldn't be profitable and it would die. There are plus and minuses to both sides. It's just two different business models at work. The entry-level price for a PS3 is $100 more but you can use your own hard drives. The entry-level price for a 360 is $100 less but you can't use your own hard drive. You get what you pay for.

Also a forum user here (kyliedog I think) found out his custom arcade stick got locked out by PS3's recent firmware update just because Sony got all pissy about third-parties releasing cheap Dualshock clones. I would have been mega pissed if that was me (I had flirted with the idea of ordering a custom made stick). Sony can be real proprietary hardware nazis too. Oh and the Wiiware and VC content we buy from Nintendo gets locked to your console. If you wanted to buy a Red Wii and transfer all your Wiiware and VC content to your new Wii, too f'n bad. All three companies suck in their own way.

You really have no idea what your talking about do you, MS doesn't need the money from their harddrives, far from, they make massive amounts more from forcing you to pay online while offering no added service, the harddrives are chump change at most, it wouldn't effect xbox at all, as for ps3 not having a 200 sku, you may not have realized this put ps3 has alot more mandatory game installs to compensate for having several times more data in some of their games which would make taking a harddrive out impossible 

As for the update Sony was only targeting illegal counterfeit controllers, because well they were melting and bursting into flames and smearing Sony's reputation, very few legit 3rd party controllers were effected if any