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unknown_soul89 said:
drkohler said:
Cunning_Linguist said:

The contents is irrelevant really, I'm merely pointing out that analysts make comments based on their own predictions and the results compared with said predictions. In this guys eyes Reach failed when the rest of the world sees otherwise.

Not necessarily. How do you define success? The game sold more than its predecessor? The game sold more units than any other game at the time? The game made profit? The game sold more than the competition? From an analysts' standpoint, Halo Reach should have sold at least to the same percentage of customers as previous Halo 3? If you take the last definition as your definition of success, then Halo Reach is a complete failure as it sold the same numbers to a customer base almost/(over?) twice as big....(yes I know that definition is at least unfair if not incorrect but we are talking "analysts like Pachter" here.

Anything that makes an overall profit is successful, but that doesn't mean it's as successful as it should of been or as successful as the company wanted, halo reach was successful but it had a massive ad campaign and install base in the series, personally I just think people are finally realizing it's just the same shit again and getting tired of it, and rightly so, but those analysis aren't that down to earth

My original point seems to have been lost due to me using halo as an example so I'll clarify. Analyst interpretations of success and failure may be very different to those of the manufacturer of a product simply because they have different projections or predictions of what result to expect. Therefore, while in the eyes of Pachter Move underperformed based on his projections, if it met Sony's projections then as far as they are concerned it has been a success.

My point is that Pachter's declaration of Move success/failure should be taken with a grain of salt, especially as Sony stated before release that they expected a slow start and therefore it will take some time before any real credible statement can be made on its success